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#101
Since Honda don't seem to give a toss, is it time to make others aware of the crap we are putting up with? eg, J.D.Power survey or even Top Gear-5th Gear, or letters to Autocar and the like. So far I have not suffered from the dreaded rattle(touching wood as I type) but it may happen in the future and I'd like there be something positive to fall back on.
I don't really want to tell the world about the problems surrounding the S2k because it may/will affect values but if Honda feel that it may have a knock on effect on other models would this spur them on.?
I don't really want to tell the world about the problems surrounding the S2k because it may/will affect values but if Honda feel that it may have a knock on effect on other models would this spur them on.?
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Since Honda don't seem to give a toss, is it time to make others aware of the crap we are putting up with? eg, J.D.Power survey or even Top Gear-5th Gear, or letters to Autocar and the like. So far I have not suffered from the dreaded rattle(touching wood as I type) but it may happen in the future and I'd like there be something positive to fall back on.
I don't really want to tell the world about the problems surrounding the S2k because it may/will affect values but if Honda feel that it may have a knock on effect on other models would this spur them on.?
I don't really want to tell the world about the problems surrounding the S2k because it may/will affect values but if Honda feel that it may have a knock on effect on other models would this spur them on.?
One of the consumer affairs programmes on the tele probably would though
I have a contact at the BBC: (a friend of a friend) a producer who has worked on many programmes including Top Gear. All I need do is pick up the phone and call him, so that is simple enough
It's a difficult situation as you say, it won't help the value of the cars if the issue is common knowledge
I do think it would be a PR problem for Honda though and it will undoubtedly damage their image
However, with the current lack of acknowledgement of the issues, even when the facts have been presented to them
A complete lack of any kind of customer service, aside from fitting another engine which WILL, in all probability, FAIL
A "customer services" operation staffed and led by the blind, deaf and dumb
An arrogance and seemingly complete contempt for their customers
I WILL, should the need arise, do as much damage to Honda's reputation as I can
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Greg, just out of interest does this only affect uk cars?Does it effect other RHD cars,as in Malta,Gibralta,Australia,ect,I know the American AP2s are 2.2s so that would perhaps remove them from the possible list,
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I would imagine the issues could potentially affect any F20C2 engines, whether LHD or RHD
Presumably they were all built on the same production line
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Last time I took my car to Honda as they detected a sound from the engine and they found out the tappet needed adjusting! I'll get them to do a engine health check in the nearer future
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What are Honda doing to rectify the noise? if it just fitting new thrust washers if the movement exceeds tolerance would it be worth fitting new thrusts from a source other than Honda as a precaution before the problem arises?.
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When tolerances have been checked and are in spec but "the noise" is apparent, Honda are fitting thrust washers
If you haven't got "the noise" I wouldn't worry - yet
Engines have developed "the noise" as low as 2.5k miles and have blown at up to 20k miles
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Originally Posted by tjhmortimer' timestamp='1308837080' post='20711800
[quote name='Ste_Nova' timestamp='1308814827' post='20711195']
another one in chester honda yesterday, has noise, measurements in tolerance, the person i spoke to was aware there was an issue
another one in chester honda yesterday, has noise, measurements in tolerance, the person i spoke to was aware there was an issue
Hi Ste_Nova
Did you take your car to Chester Honda yesterday? They certainly wern't aware until I made them aware!!! Did you get any joy with them?
Tom
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That would've been mine!
#110
Originally Posted by martin j' timestamp='1309013772' post='20718553
What are Honda doing to rectify the noise? if it just fitting new thrust washers if the movement exceeds tolerance would it be worth fitting new thrusts from a source other than Honda as a precaution before the problem arises?.
When tolerances have been checked and are in spec but "the noise" is apparent, Honda are fitting thrust washers
If you haven't got "the noise" I wouldn't worry - yet
Engines have developed "the noise" as low as 2.5k miles and have blown at up to 20k miles
Not ALWAYS the case, mine came back within 'tolerance' but with the noise being apparent, however they didn't replace anything! I was told that they would only replace the thrust washers if the end float was out of tolerance.