The Widest Wheel+Tire Setup W/out...
#11
So you have pulled your fenders out 30mm? Oh wait and NO camber, so 45mm? Something isn't adding up Yes some pics would be great so we can see the whole story.
#12
Here is my work (I maybe wrong, so do correct me):
Your Rear:
17" x 11", +30 offset, with 275/40 tires
11"/2 = 5.5" on each side of the wheel with offset = 0. Offset +30mm = 1.18". So now we have 5.5" - 1.18" = 4.32" outside, and 6.68" inside from centerline.
tire is 10.83" wide; 4.33" sidewall; wheel = 25.66"
Your tire with offset becomes (10.83"/2)-1.18" = 4.24"
AP2 Stock Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, with 245/40 tires
8.5"/2 = 4.25". Offset +65mm = 2.56". So AP2 stock has 4.25" - 2.56" = 1.69" outside, and 6.81" inside from centerline.
tire is 9.65" wide; 3.86" sidewall; wheel = 24.72"
tire with AP2 offset becomes (9.65"/2)-2.56" = 2.27"
CR Stock Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, with 255/40 tires
Wheel size and offset same as AP2 Stock Rear.
tire is 10.04" wide; 4.02" sidewall; wheel = 25.04"
tire with CR offset becomes (10.04"/2)-2.56" = 2.46"
Your Rear rim VS AP2/CR outside from centerline:
4.32" - 1.69" = 2.63" difference
Your Rear sidewall height VS AP2/CR:
AP2: 4.33" - 3.86" = 0.65" difference
CR: 4.33" - 4.02" = 0.31" difference
Your Rear tire width VS AP2/CR:
AP2: 4.24" - 2.27" = 1.97" difference
CR: 4.24" - 2.46" = 1.78" difference
So, I guess the gap between the wheel and the rear quarter panel can still clear with only 0.65" difference AP2, and 0.31" with CR. But Can fender roll really achieves and accommodates 2.63" wheel, and 1.78" in tire width difference? You do stretch the 275 on 11" rims a little bit tho.
Your Rear:
17" x 11", +30 offset, with 275/40 tires
11"/2 = 5.5" on each side of the wheel with offset = 0. Offset +30mm = 1.18". So now we have 5.5" - 1.18" = 4.32" outside, and 6.68" inside from centerline.
tire is 10.83" wide; 4.33" sidewall; wheel = 25.66"
Your tire with offset becomes (10.83"/2)-1.18" = 4.24"
AP2 Stock Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, with 245/40 tires
8.5"/2 = 4.25". Offset +65mm = 2.56". So AP2 stock has 4.25" - 2.56" = 1.69" outside, and 6.81" inside from centerline.
tire is 9.65" wide; 3.86" sidewall; wheel = 24.72"
tire with AP2 offset becomes (9.65"/2)-2.56" = 2.27"
CR Stock Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, with 255/40 tires
Wheel size and offset same as AP2 Stock Rear.
tire is 10.04" wide; 4.02" sidewall; wheel = 25.04"
tire with CR offset becomes (10.04"/2)-2.56" = 2.46"
Your Rear rim VS AP2/CR outside from centerline:
4.32" - 1.69" = 2.63" difference
Your Rear sidewall height VS AP2/CR:
AP2: 4.33" - 3.86" = 0.65" difference
CR: 4.33" - 4.02" = 0.31" difference
Your Rear tire width VS AP2/CR:
AP2: 4.24" - 2.27" = 1.97" difference
CR: 4.24" - 2.46" = 1.78" difference
So, I guess the gap between the wheel and the rear quarter panel can still clear with only 0.65" difference AP2, and 0.31" with CR. But Can fender roll really achieves and accommodates 2.63" wheel, and 1.78" in tire width difference? You do stretch the 275 on 11" rims a little bit tho.
#13
I will post pics soon no worries. Please note like the above mentioned there is stretch when putting a 275 on an 11inch wheel in fact I was running 18x9.5+22 in the rear with a 255/35 the stretch is the same as the 255 on a 9.5. When I tell you I have it on stock quarters obviously there is more then just a roll moving bumper tab and a slight pull. While my car was in the body shop I pulled/pushed my fenders out about 2-2.5 inches past the stock body lines. Where I had lil paint chip or small dent the body shop filled it in. Trust me you can do it on stock quarters but like I stated in my first post it really comes down to how much work you put into it. Btw there is a official thread for pulled quarters. You will see there is people on here that have even lower offsets then I do with the same quarter panel adjustments. Sorry I do not have pics to show you right this min but I will post some on here soon.
#14
I will post pics soon no worries. Please note like the above mentioned there is stretch when putting a 275 on an 11inch wheel in fact I was running 18x9.5+22 in the rear with a 255/35 the stretch is the same as the 255 on a 9.5. When I tell you I have it on stock quarters obviously there is more then just a roll moving bumper tab and a slight pull. While my car was in the body shop I pulled/pushed my fenders out about 2-2.5 inches past the stock body lines. Where I had lil paint chip or small dent the body shop filled it in. Trust me you can do it on stock quarters but like I stated in my first post it really comes down to how much work you put into it. Btw there is a official thread for pulled quarters. You will see there is people on here that have even lower offsets then I do with the same quarter panel adjustments. Sorry I do not have pics to show you right this min but I will post some on here soon.
Cool none the less, id like to see some pics, though it would be even cooler if you wanted to really challenge yourself and stuff some 325's under those
#15
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I will post pics soon no worries. Please note like the above mentioned there is stretch when putting a 275 on an 11inch wheel in fact I was running 18x9.5+22 in the rear with a 255/35 the stretch is the same as the 255 on a 9.5. When I tell you I have it on stock quarters obviously there is more then just a roll moving bumper tab and a slight pull. While my car was in the body shop I pulled/pushed my fenders out about 2-2.5 inches past the stock body lines. Where I had lil paint chip or small dent the body shop filled it in. Trust me you can do it on stock quarters but like I stated in my first post it really comes down to how much work you put into it. Btw there is a official thread for pulled quarters. You will see there is people on here that have even lower offsets then I do with the same quarter panel adjustments. Sorry I do not have pics to show you right this min but I will post some on here soon.
#16
Good thread.
I also wondered this myself, and it seems like those running the much larger tires aren't willing to spell out exactly what fits and what won't. I'm not in a position to buy a new set of wheels and run wider rubber, but perhaps down the road we'll see. It would definitely be nice if someone shared their hard work w/ the rest of us so as to save us from redoing the the work/trial and error..
I'll be doing some work on my car today, if you want some measurements I'd be happy to take some while I'm working on the car. I'm really only interested in setup B as I have no intention of aftermarket front fenders. On that note, it seems like your table is pretty close in terms of what fits on a stock car w/o rolling fenders. The rear you're probably limited to ~275's w/o rolling at least from what I've read.
I also wondered this myself, and it seems like those running the much larger tires aren't willing to spell out exactly what fits and what won't. I'm not in a position to buy a new set of wheels and run wider rubber, but perhaps down the road we'll see. It would definitely be nice if someone shared their hard work w/ the rest of us so as to save us from redoing the the work/trial and error..
I'll be doing some work on my car today, if you want some measurements I'd be happy to take some while I'm working on the car. I'm really only interested in setup B as I have no intention of aftermarket front fenders. On that note, it seems like your table is pretty close in terms of what fits on a stock car w/o rolling fenders. The rear you're probably limited to ~275's w/o rolling at least from what I've read.
#17
I will post pics soon no worries. Please note like the above mentioned there is stretch when putting a 275 on an 11inch wheel in fact I was running 18x9.5+22 in the rear with a 255/35 the stretch is the same as the 255 on a 9.5. When I tell you I have it on stock quarters obviously there is more then just a roll moving bumper tab and a slight pull. While my car was in the body shop I pulled/pushed my fenders out about 2-2.5 inches past the stock body lines. Where I had lil paint chip or small dent the body shop filled it in. Trust me you can do it on stock quarters but like I stated in my first post it really comes down to how much work you put into it. Btw there is a official thread for pulled quarters. You will see there is people on here that have even lower offsets then I do with the same quarter panel adjustments. Sorry I do not have pics to show you right this min but I will post some on here soon.
#18
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It's difficult to spell that out because everyone is going to be a little different and there is a lot of variables that can be different from car to car. I think Junky's set up is fairly well documented on here as well as what he had to do to make them fit. Keep in mind his RFP1's are custom widened by weld craft so it isn't something that you can just buy off the shelf. No matter what you are going to have to do some of your own work as we can share what worked for us but just because it worked on my car it doesn't exactly mean it will work the same on yours.
#19
It's difficult to spell that out because everyone is going to be a little different and there is a lot of variables that can be different from car to car. I think Junky's set up is fairly well documented on here as well as what he had to do to make them fit. Keep in mind his RFP1's are custom widened by weld craft so it isn't something that you can just buy off the shelf. No matter what you are going to have to do some of your own work as we can share what worked for us but just because it worked on my car it doesn't exactly mean it will work the same on yours.
#20
Originally Posted by Manga_Spawn' timestamp='1364237417' post='22427248
It's difficult to spell that out because everyone is going to be a little different and there is a lot of variables that can be different from car to car. I think Junky's set up is fairly well documented on here as well as what he had to do to make them fit. Keep in mind his RFP1's are custom widened by weld craft so it isn't something that you can just buy off the shelf. No matter what you are going to have to do some of your own work as we can share what worked for us but just because it worked on my car it doesn't exactly mean it will work the same on yours.
Rear- 295/35/17
11.5" +63
-3 camber
12.75" fender to hub clearance (aprox 2" drop)
Bumper tab relocated and inner fender lip cut (or you could roll)
Inner fender well and shock tower housing banged in about 3mm to keep from tire and rim making contact under full suspension compression.
Front- 255/40/17
10" +58
-2.4 camber
12.85" fender to hub clearance
fenders rolled and pulled aprox 8mm