A very stupid question, for Jim.
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A very stupid question, for Jim.
Jim:
As I have already said my question is stupid, this will save all the other posters the effort of telling me so. But here it is.
If (as I am told) the rear tires on the S2k wear because of toe in (meaning that the wheels are angled in at the front, making them "scrub" as they go down the road), and the fronts wear on the inside because of negative camber (meaning they are tilted out at the bottom), what would happen if the wheels/tires were set "straight up and down" on the front and parallel on the rear? Clearly, tire wear would be even and less, but what would happen to handling?
I'm not a tech, I'm a driver. You have previously advised me to reduce to rear toe in and the front negative camber, in the interest of increased tread life, but at the expense of getting oversteer. Well, if what I am getting is oversteer, I'd frankly like some more of it, as a driver! So the nature of my question is, what is the absolute minimum toe in on the rears and aboslute minimum negative camber useable on the s2k, without being deadly, of course.
And please let me thank you in advance for you answer, and assure you that my next set of tires (comming soon) will be purchased from you.
Thanks,
Richard
As I have already said my question is stupid, this will save all the other posters the effort of telling me so. But here it is.
If (as I am told) the rear tires on the S2k wear because of toe in (meaning that the wheels are angled in at the front, making them "scrub" as they go down the road), and the fronts wear on the inside because of negative camber (meaning they are tilted out at the bottom), what would happen if the wheels/tires were set "straight up and down" on the front and parallel on the rear? Clearly, tire wear would be even and less, but what would happen to handling?
I'm not a tech, I'm a driver. You have previously advised me to reduce to rear toe in and the front negative camber, in the interest of increased tread life, but at the expense of getting oversteer. Well, if what I am getting is oversteer, I'd frankly like some more of it, as a driver! So the nature of my question is, what is the absolute minimum toe in on the rears and aboslute minimum negative camber useable on the s2k, without being deadly, of course.
And please let me thank you in advance for you answer, and assure you that my next set of tires (comming soon) will be purchased from you.
Thanks,
Richard
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MrFortettable:
Well, I'd like to think so, but remember --- these are the folks that brought us rear tire wear out in 6k to 12k miles driving conservatively. These are the folks that apparently were (and are) attempting to make a TIRE do the job of suspension deficiencies. And, these are the folks who never built and sold a front enginge, rear drive car before --- ever. Don't get me wrong. It's one great car, except for one thing. It eats tires! With a car this good, there has got to be a better way ---- a solution.
Thanks,
Richard
Well, I'd like to think so, but remember --- these are the folks that brought us rear tire wear out in 6k to 12k miles driving conservatively. These are the folks that apparently were (and are) attempting to make a TIRE do the job of suspension deficiencies. And, these are the folks who never built and sold a front enginge, rear drive car before --- ever. Don't get me wrong. It's one great car, except for one thing. It eats tires! With a car this good, there has got to be a better way ---- a solution.
Thanks,
Richard
#5
There are no deficiencies in the suspension. They use that much toe in to keep people safe in the cars. Honda would rather the car understeer than oversteer. You can increase the tread life by changing the toe in to the minimum allowable within Honda spec.
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