the dumontster

Basically, I am wondering if it is the tire or the application, but this morning my backend got a little loose but there was no 'squeel' from the tires. Is it is the tire or because I was making a hard right turn with medium throttle input? Would another tire have made some sort of humming or squeelling noise when breaking loose like that? There was no audible warning from my tires that the backend was sliding out, i remember my last set of tires chirping or at least giving a slight humming sound when being on the edge. My current tires are the dunlop sport 8000s in 245/45 16.

xviper

Where do you live? What is the temperature outside? How cold is the pavement? If it's cold pavement and your tires are cold, they won't squeal when they spin and loose traction.

the dumontster

This is long island. I was on the road for about 20 minutes prior and the outside temp was 48 degrees F. This was in the morning so the pavement may have been slightly colder. The temperture at night was in the high 30's.

xviper

That's cool but I've squealed tires at that temp before. The condition of the road surface will also make the tires spin easily and not make noise. For exampe, like dust, sand, debris, dew coming out of the pavement, etc, too high a tire pressure.

Jim@tirerack

Also certain tires will make more noise thatn others. If it was a summer performance tire 48 degrees is still cold and the tires are going to be hard.

virulosity

I live in southern california and I have rarely had tires that squeal. I think it has more to do with the design of the tire than anything else. Higher performance tires seem like they make less noise at the limit.

the dumontster

I actually went out in the afternoon for lunch and weather.com stated 70 degrees F. I can into a turn real hot and the back 'glided' around, once again no noise, only the feeling. I would prefer some noise, just to know how close to limit I am. Although the one time i lost it the tires squeelled like a mother@#$#@%, but they were different tires, dunlop 5000 sports and this was at 11pm on a chilly night. I literally came around the bend perpendicular to the road. I did not expect the back to come out so hard/fast; felt like it was on ice. Since the temp dropped low at night (75 day -> sub 40 at night), I suspected there to be some dew on the road.

the dumontster

What is the optimum/minimum operating temp of a UHP summer tire? 70F+? I guess I will be taking it easy on the morning commute from now on

rijowysock

u dont really want noise u should be able to feel the limits of the car w/o an audible "alert"

pay attention to what ur driving over, sounded like this monr tires/road were cold and/or u were on some kinda of debris.

to warm tires up.. hit like 40 and sharply go side to side ..pretty much banking car side to side. for a min or more. should heat tires up more than enuff.. my compounds i gotta heat up b4 they even wanna perform near "good"

the dumontster

I am getting very familiar with that 'feeling'
Road must have been cold because there was clearly no debris.

thanks a lot for the warm up tip!