Stretching tires
02-13-2008, 12:14 PM
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If you're competing to win, then I would have to assume you would not want to compromise performance to save some cash on tires. This is why serious drifters/racers are sponsored by tire companies. It doesn't cost the team anything to use better performing tires.
So, the "cost" argument only applies to people who drift for recreation. Which, in itself, is a completely unintended use of the cars anyways. No car I can think of was designed for drifting.
The OP was asking about performance gains/sacrifices for stretching tires. All we have established so far is that casual drifters justify poor performing tire set-ups to save a little cash. Seems to me, that is the only reasonable explaination for stretching.
So, the "cost" argument only applies to people who drift for recreation. Which, in itself, is a completely unintended use of the cars anyways. No car I can think of was designed for drifting.
The OP was asking about performance gains/sacrifices for stretching tires. All we have established so far is that casual drifters justify poor performing tire set-ups to save a little cash. Seems to me, that is the only reasonable explaination for stretching.
02-13-2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 2tirefire,Feb 12 2008, 09:28 PM
When did one lap of America and Drifting use the same kind of techniques?
02-13-2008, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2tirefire,Feb 13 2008, 05:17 PM
When was 600 WHP overpowered for a drift car? If you would do a bit of research you would find that this is on the lower powered side for FI vehicles. As a group my friends do this for fun and compete at local events, there is no reason for them to even try to go pro as funding and skills are not there. I don't understand why you had to throw that little jab in there, but hey I will leave that alone.
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02-14-2008, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Highrpmek,Feb 12 2008, 09:52 PM
Anyone remember what S2KI was like 3 years ago. Better yet, pre F&F days. The good ole' days of true sports car enthusiasts. The days when out pacing Boxster S' and awesome top down group drives. Oh well.
Flite, I know the ill effects of running stretched tires. I've voiced some of the facts as well as my opinion in other threads. I don't really consider your set up stretched, but your car would perform and look better with a meater tire.
Also, I agree about the car looking better with a wider tire, but in order run anything bigger than a 275 (which currently on there) I'd have to roll fenders. I don't want to do that, so I'm stuck with a 275. As far as performance goes, my HREs are just for looks. I'd be willing to bet that even though they're substantially wider, they perform no better than my OEM tires. I've still got my OEM wheel/tires for "spirited" driving and I've got another set of wheels with stickies coming soon.
Anyway, I guess I'm not going to get an answer in here on the subject. It's a shame.
Oh.... and 600hp is quite a bit more than the average drift car. 2tirefire is kind of an
07-27-2009, 09:18 PM
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The way i see it is that very very mild stretching is good. because it'll stiffen up the sidewalls. Those that say today's technology can compensate are very wrong...look at the Direzza Star specs or FK-452s, those things have SOFT SOFT sidewalls. Adding a bit of stretch to it makes it so much stiffer and more predictable.
07-28-2009, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SSM*03*S2K,Feb 10 2008, 10:27 PM
i dont understand what the reason behind it is? I have never heard of this ever.
07-28-2009, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by XtC-604,Jul 27 2009, 09:18 PM
Those that say today's technology can compensate are very wrong...