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Old 10-22-2005 | 01:38 PM
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The new for 2005 Revo1 snowtires look very interesting. I was wondering if anyone has an experience with them or is planning on trying them out.
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I just bought a complete set for my daughter's new Mustang. Go them from TireRack. They are sitting in my front hallway right now and although I can't tell you how they work or handle, my preliminary assessment is that the tread seems to be almost as soft as my old Blizzak MZ-01s (now replaced by WS-50). The MZs were probably the most aggressive snow tire that Blizzak made for street cars. The REVO 1 doesn't appear to be quite as hard as the LM-22, which we already know is the best for winter dry road handling. I think the REVO will have nearly the same snow/ice grip as the WS but will also have some of the dry road handling of the LM series. I believe the REVO may be the "new kid" on the block and may soon become the Blizzak of choice.
Here is a thread with some pics of the tires and tread design from my own camera:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=330920
Old 10-22-2005 | 03:16 PM
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ok..thanks..sure sounds like it might be the right decision. I think I'll be the first S with them. Weather here is 48 and rain but usually November is when snow starts. I'll definitely review and update when I make the purchase.
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hey guys, i need new snow tires as well. Dunlop has a $50 rebate on M3 wintersport tires, and those are rated #1 at tirerack.

Any reason why I should NOT get M3s??? Are REVO1s better than M3??
Old 10-23-2005 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ProV1,Oct 23 2005, 07:45 AM
Are REVO1s better than M3??
no one knows yet since they're new for '05. The Revo out-tested WS50 in a tirerack ice test...i personally know nothing about the M3.
Old 10-23-2005 | 01:04 PM
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[QUOTE=xviper,Oct 22 2005, 02:03 PM] the LM-22, which we already know is the best for winter dry road handling.
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Originally Posted by rai,Oct 23 2005, 12:04 PM
not to argue, but the Dunlop winter sport M3s got better survey scores in ALL categories over the LM-22s

I guess this is not 100% scientific since it's just a survey.. here is the tirerack results:

LM-22s -->click

M3s -->click

I know these are not specific to the S2000 just the tires on all different cars but when you see the M3s rated better in ALL categories you have to think it may in fact be better.
very interesting to check those ratings. what do you think X?

Maybe he was just referring to Blizzaks???

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Those ratings are specific to the LM series. However, the ratings for both tires fall within the range of "excellent". I don't believe the small variation in numerical rating (within the first decimal point, not even a full "unit") can be discernable to the average driver. I would by these on the basis of cost and personal opinion of which tread pattern you like best.
For me, I buy snow tires to perform in the snow. I don't generally concern myself so much with performance on dry winter roads as I tend to drive more cautiously in winter anyway.
You couldn't go wrong with either of these choices.
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xviper, can you comment your experience with studless snow tires like WS50, Graspics, etc?

I'm especially concerned about their

1. dry handling, at highway speeds above 60mph
2. tread wear, i heard they last 5000-7000 miles? (multicell compound)
3. noise level again on dry surface


i really can't decide whether to get WS50/REVO1 or Dunlop M3...!
Old 10-23-2005 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ProV1,Oct 23 2005, 05:32 PM
1. dry handling, at highway speeds above 60mph
2. tread wear, i heard they last 5000-7000 miles? (multicell compound)
3. noise level again on dry surface
I can only tell you about the Blizzak MZ-01, which have now been replaced with the WS series.
1. Highway driving is not a problem at speeds above 60. The problem comes when you try to turn agressively, like on a high speed sharp curve. You need to slow down as the car begins to "wallow". It doesn't fee stable. As long as you are not taking high speed sharp curves, the car is fine.
2. My MZ lasted 4.5 winters, at which time, I sold them to another owner. They still had enough tread on them to go another winter (maybe 2). Our winters can have me leave the snow tires on the car for up to 6 months. I can put on 4000 to 5000 miles per winter season. Wear is dependent upon how much snow/ice you get and how cold the pavement stays. Of course, highway driving will wear them down much quicker.
3. I've always had a cat back exhaust and road tire noise was not something I heard well.



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