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Powder Coating and AP2V1's = Failure!

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Old 07-27-2009 | 05:02 PM
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Default Powder Coating and AP2V1's = Failure!

After about 35 Auto-X laps my Powder coated AP2 V1's almost failed!!

7 of 10 spokes had cracks.

3 of the 4 wheels had cracks.

1 more lap this weekend, my CR would have been seriously F'd up.

A friend spotted the cracks and said, Whoa, don't go out again at the last second.

Whew, that was too close for comfort


Old 07-27-2009 | 06:44 PM
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ouch man. those are good looking wheels too.
Old 07-27-2009 | 07:15 PM
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so these cracks are from powdercoating?
Old 07-27-2009 | 07:44 PM
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talk about wheel failure
Old 07-27-2009 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jcjt,Jul 27 2009, 06:15 PM
so these cracks are from powdercoating?
When powdercoated.. The wheels are baked at 400F.

The working theory is that this extra hot heat cycle weakens the aluminum.

Then by stressing them with autoXing speeds and forces, they cracked.

Bear in mind most of those laps were on a very high grip airport surface.
Old 07-27-2009 | 07:59 PM
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i was thinking of pc'ing the v1's on mines.... but thank goodness i read your thread.

maybe i'll try vinyl wrapping it.
Old 07-27-2009 | 09:03 PM
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so the whole wheel cracked, or just the powdercoating?

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Old 07-27-2009 | 09:11 PM
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It seems that if you bake them at too high a temp then things happen. My old AP1 wheels never had issues after I had them powerdercoated. A good friend of mine however has a set of SSR Comps powerdercoated and they basically bent right where your wheel cracked so the tire was inboard about an inch from where it was at the start of the autocross run. That was on street tires. I wish I had pictures....
Old 07-27-2009 | 09:31 PM
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Interesting. I know that hod rodders had some big time problems with chroming suspensions parts, e.g., springs, a-arms, etc. The process weaken the metal causing it to fatigue and fail. In some cases resulting in serious accidents.

Good thing your buddy saw it in time!
Old 07-29-2009 | 06:22 AM
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We had the same thing happen with a set of SSR forged wheels. We sent them back to SSR and they had them tested and significantly softer than original. The problem is the heat.



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