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Pilot Super Sports vs Direzz ZII vs R-S3?!?!?!

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Old 07-13-2013 | 09:09 AM
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I have an '02 and a need for some new rubber. I drive Screamer (<my cars name ) about 4-5 times a week and do track days out at Miller Motorsports Park (longest road course in America come check it out!) about 3-4 times a year. I am not rich, so I want something with decent life, but I want something with grip too. I know I know I want an NSX for the price of a Civic ha ha ha. Looking at Pilot Super Sports, Direzza ZII, and R-S3. Size 225/40/18 front and 255/35/18 rear. Suggestions and comments appreciated.
Old 07-13-2013 | 11:32 AM
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They are listed in exactly the order from best to worst you have in the title, lol.
Old 07-13-2013 | 06:04 PM
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Dunlop ZIIs are probably a bit better at the track, Pilot Super Sports a bit better overall on the street, and will resist hydroplaning in standing water better for longer. PSS should also outlast the ZII.
FWIW, I'm running Pilot Super Sports on one set of wheels and Dunlop StarSpecs (predecessor to the ZII) on another set, and have tracked on both sets, and really there's not that much between them.

You might think about Bridgestone S-04. Pretty competitive with the Michelin, for a fair amount less $$$.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=162
Old 07-15-2013 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ZDan
Dunlop ZIIs are probably a bit better at the track, Pilot Super Sports a bit better overall on the street, and will resist hydroplaning in standing water better for longer. PSS should also outlast the ZII.
FWIW, I'm running Pilot Super Sports on one set of wheels and Dunlop StarSpecs (predecessor to the ZII) on another set, and have tracked on both sets, and really there's not that much between them.

You might think about Bridgestone S-04. Pretty competitive with the Michelin, for a fair amount less $$$.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=162
Bridgestones look good for the price. Mixed reviews on Tire Rack, but quite a bit cheaper. Think I might shell out the cash for the Michelins.
Old 07-15-2013 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sebring AP1
They are listed in exactly the order from best to worst you have in the title, lol.
Sure, if you are only rating tread wear. If you are rating performance, they are listed from worst to best.
Old 07-15-2013 | 01:16 PM
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They are listed in exactly the order from best to worst you have in the title, lol.
Sure, if you are only rating tread wear. If you are rating performance, they are listed from worst to best.
I was very puzzled by his statement. I had tried all 3 and I could have sworn my RS3's were the grippiest and could take ALOT more heat than the other two. PSS wouldnt even last 2 laps before the grip went down dramatically
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Originally Posted by thomsbrain
Originally Posted by Sebring AP1' timestamp='1373740343' post='22664108
They are listed in exactly the order from best to worst you have in the title, lol.
Sure, if you are only rating tread wear. If you are rating performance, they are listed from worst to best.

Originally Posted by thanasis11' timestamp='1373919374' post='22667344
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They are listed in exactly the order from best to worst you have in the title, lol.
Sure, if you are only rating tread wear. If you are rating performance, they are listed from worst to best.
I was very puzzled by his statement. I had tried all 3 and I could have sworn my RS3's were the grippiest and could take ALOT more heat than the other two. PSS wouldnt even last 2 laps before the grip went down dramatically
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I think I confused the PSS with the super sport cups. My mistake.

That being said, ZII is better than the RS3. And that comes from having burned through 3 sets of RS3 on track over the years and currently owning and driving on ZII. There should be no confusion here unless you either have no experience with these tires, or do not track your car.
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RS3 would be better in the heat of the summer, but wear quicker. They love heat. Z2 would be better all other times of the track season out there.
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Originally Posted by GT Motoring II
RS3 would be better in the heat of the summer, but wear quicker. They love heat. Z2 would be better all other times of the track season out there.

Even in 70 degree weather I thought the dunlops got greasy eventually. RS3's would always stick regardless of the ambient temperature as long as they were warm enough.

Edit: I live in Texas so 70 is cold and pretty much the daytime temperature from november to february. Maybe in canada dunlops dont get greasy and rs3s dont warm up to temp
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Originally Posted by thanasis11
Even in 70 degree weather I thought the dunlops got greasy eventually. RS3's would always stick regardless of the ambient temperature as long as they were warm enough.

Edit: I live in Texas so 70 is cold and pretty much the daytime temperature from november to february. Maybe in canada dunlops dont get greasy and rs3s dont warm up to temp
I run on RS3s on a 45 degree day here in Chicago just fine. That being said, Id still rather run something other than the RS3 in early spring and late fall over the RS3 out at Miller.



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