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Old 05-04-2012 | 03:10 AM
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Depends on your alignment and how you drive the car.
I still thought I would cook the rear just as fast as the fronts, being a rwd car and all. My last set of tires I ate the rears much faster than the fronts, and everyone on average buys 2 sets of rears per 1 set of fronts.
This is the typical yes. How much camber you running up front? since your not running any toe.
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-1.5 around. I forgot to add 2 psi back into my front tires after the dragon too
Old 05-04-2012 | 03:45 AM
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Sounds to me like you drive to hard into the turns and that translates into push and its what ate your tires .

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Old 05-04-2012 | 09:52 AM
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Thats what happens when you drive like a canadian

Maybe vsa? Usually my rears get worn 2x faster than the front... that being said I'm not a big brake'er.
Old 05-04-2012 | 10:24 AM
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Sounds to me like you drive to hard into the turns and that translates into push and its what ate your tires .

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I was just going to say. A hard day at the Dragon may just as well be the same tire abuse at the track. Sounds like a lot of pushing into the turns. 1.5- camber isnt really that much.
Old 05-04-2012 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ipopvtec
Thats what happens when you drive like a canadian

Maybe vsa? Usually my rears get worn 2x faster than the front... that being said I'm not a big brake'er.
Mike doesn't drive w/ the VSA on ...unless I'm behind him, right Mike

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Old 05-04-2012 | 11:21 AM
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its happened to me before. basically lands in how youre driving the car and alignment specs. i found that i would understeer a lot in my ap2. ended up maxing out the camber on front, think it ended up around 2.3 and ran 2 in back. that helped a lot with both wear and balance
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Originally Posted by ipopvtec
Thats what happens when you drive like a canadian

Maybe vsa? Usually my rears get worn 2x faster than the front... that being said I'm not a big brake'er.
VSA was off, unless redcelica was behind me Or if it was night time.
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Sounds to me like you drive to hard into the turns and that translates into push and its what ate your tires .

Brett
I was just going to say. A hard day at the Dragon may just as well be the same tire abuse at the track. Sounds like a lot of pushing into the turns. 1.5- camber isnt really that much.
The dragon I would equate more to autocross. How does one not push a lot, while driving the dragon? Especially since my car is a 2007. I testing it out all week, every car pushed into the turns at some point. Now you're going to say, driver error, ok yea I know. That's why I changed the way I drove, still pushed a bit. I want to try 225/245 tire combo next year with the eibach sway bars front and rear.
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Originally Posted by FluKy15
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Sounds to me like you drive to hard into the turns and that translates into push and its what ate your tires .

Brett
I was just going to say. A hard day at the Dragon may just as well be the same tire abuse at the track. Sounds like a lot of pushing into the turns. 1.5- camber isnt really that much.
The dragon I would equate more to autocross. How does one not push a lot, while driving the dragon? Especially since my car is a 2007. I testing it out all week, every car pushed into the turns at some point. Now you're going to say, driver error, ok yea I know. That's why I changed the way I drove, still pushed a bit. I want to try 225/245 tire combo next year with the eibach sway bars front and rear.
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Thats ap2s for ya everyone complained about the snap over steer on the ap1... and they dampened the steering ratio from 13.8 to 14.9 and changed the shock setup to make it want to understeer.

I know swaybars are a good start to changing your suspension setup, and I know how everyone raves about stock suspension setup being sooo good (because it is, and its free with the car) but maybe you should consider coilovers...? Kwv3? With coilovers you can stiffen and soften the shocks at will by simply pulling over on the road. Swaybars are a much cheaper fix compared to $2000+ suspension though.

Also I know that with double wishbone suspension setup camber has a curve correlated with the compression of the front shock. I'm no suspension expert, but s2000 front shocks dont have resivoirs. Just a guess but due to the hard braking and elevation changes, the shock body might not have been able to cope. When a shock has a resivoir like the stock rears, it allows the shock to react to sudden changes with such a force- that high spring rates found in other setups are not needed. That being said, I could be totally wrong, because the s2000 front shock is way bigger it could have a similar oil resivoir built in? I know my kwv3 have them external on all 4 corners. Its most probable that honda didnt put one on the front because it wasn't "needed," but then again s2000s were made to be enjoyable to drive hard and to cruise.

Oh and fluky... being that you drove my car faster than I did on the dragon... did it push? It wasn't setup right at the dragon, the ride height was raked, which is why the front was rubbing a lot. I fixed it now (lowered the rear 6 full turns) and it seems to handle WAY better.
Old 05-04-2012 | 02:34 PM
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Driving style has a lot to do with it though, I run my OEM MY05 Swaybar up front and NO rear sway bar and the car only pushes if I make it. The spring rate is bias to the rear though. I very briefly stab the brakes while slowing down before turn-in on slower corners to get the weight moving to the front, then the back end will rotate around nicely and give you that warm fuzzy feeling on corner exit.



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