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Old 01-14-2012 | 09:59 AM
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I am looking for a new replacement tire. I need a tire that can be driven in the snow as well as daily use year round. I do have a set of ap1 wheels with rs-3, so i have my autox set up. I was looking at the ExtremeContact DWS as my next tire. I have read alot of positive and some negative. I won't be driving spirited with these, so I do not care about the soft side walls that feel like marshmallows. What concerns me is the snow and ice driving. I live around hills and curves and stop-and-go traffic. I need advise from people with s2000 who have these tires and have driven on snow and ice. I should mention that I have a heavy clutch with a 8 lbs flywheel that is hard to take off smoothly in the snow with my evo v12 tires.
Old 01-14-2012 | 10:34 AM
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reading the reviews of tires rack kinda scares me. i probably read somewhere near 50-60 of them. They some were very negative on the quality control. "out of round", "vibrations". Would anyone recommend me using RS-3 as daily driving for 6 months and the buying snow tires from the other 6 months?
Old 01-14-2012 | 03:28 PM
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I have a S2k with Evo V12 tires (225/35/18 & 255/30/18) and a BMW 530i sport with the Continental ExtremeContact DWS (235/45/17 non-staggered).

Not being able to swap wheels between the cars, it isn't going to be a direct comparison. The 530i weights ~3400lb - so much more than the S, but it is still a RWD car with a relatively firm suspension in sport form. The Conti's handle the snow quite well so far. The car came with them on it, so I can't tell you the exact mileage, but the are fairly new (<5000miles). They have given me enough grip and are very stable during cornering in the white stuff. The S2000 never sees snow so I can't give you hands on experience, but the DWS is going to be much much better in the snow than the Evos. As far as dry grip, they feel adequate. I haven't pushed them hard enough yet to really tell you how they perform at the limit, but they seem excellent for day to day use. Road noise doesn't seem to be an issue. The 530i is also very well insulated and you don't hear much of anything going down the road.

In summary, I wouldn't have any reservations about recommending the DWS to anyone looking for a good all season. They aren't going to be as good as your Evos in the summer or as good as a dedicated winter setup when it snows, but they seem good enough at everything to get you by.
Old 01-14-2012 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MagnumXL2
I have a S2k with Evo V12 tires (225/35/18 & 255/30/18) and a BMW 530i sport with the Continental ExtremeContact DWS (235/45/17 non-staggered).

Not being able to swap wheels between the cars, it isn't going to be a direct comparison. The 530i weights ~3400lb - so much more than the S, but it is still a RWD car with a relatively firm suspension in sport form. The Conti's handle the snow quite well so far. The car came with them on it, so I can't tell you the exact mileage, but the are fairly new (<5000miles). They have given me enough grip and are very stable during cornering in the white stuff. The S2000 never sees snow so I can't give you hands on experience, but the DWS is going to be much much better in the snow than the Evos. As far as dry grip, they feel adequate. I haven't pushed them hard enough yet to really tell you how they perform at the limit, but they seem excellent for day to day use. Road noise doesn't seem to be an issue. The 530i is also very well insulated and you don't hear much of anything going down the road.

In summary, I wouldn't have any reservations about recommending the DWS to anyone looking for a good all season. They aren't going to be as good as your Evos in the summer or as good as a dedicated winter setup when it snows, but they seem good enough at everything to get you by.
Mine are relatively new, maybe just 2-3k miles on them, but I agree on the above. (DWS) We haven't had any snow that stuck this year, so can't answer your primary question, but they seem like a great value for all-season use.
Old 01-14-2012 | 08:37 PM
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Re970s > DWS...jm2c...much better cold weather/snow/ice traction than the DWSs. Tread wear will be a lot better with the DWSs though, and they're cheaper.
Old 01-15-2012 | 09:52 AM
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I would get the re970 but the price is too much. I read about flat spotting. Any owners that have this problem?
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I had some DWS's on my SI last year and I was able to trailbaze through a blizzard into work passing SUV's doing 10 mph.. Granted they were brand new, but they held their own on the SI.. I feel safer driving fast and getting out ahead of the pack.. Better than being stuck behind some "safe" driver who'll probably slam on their brakes 500 yrds before the next signal.. They get a thumbs up from me.. and I'd buy them again..
Old 02-15-2012 | 10:51 AM
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I have the DWS's on my STI and they work great, I am very pleased with their wet, dry and winter performance. However this being said it is a winter tire for me. I run a much stickier summer tire as their performance in the summer will not be as good as the RE970's.

As always there is a trade off from summer to winter performance. If I were in your positions I would be running DWS's in the winter on stock AP1's and a Extreme/Max performance for the summer.

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I like my DWSs, but the rears are shot after only 8000 miles. (I'm NOT an aggressive driver.)
Old 08-05-2012 | 07:53 AM
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I had the RE970's on a different car and had a bad experience with them. They flat spotted and were never able to be rebalanced, despite using the Hunter Roadforce machine. I swapped them out for Michelin's MXM4's (Ford Fusion) and they were MUCH better.

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