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do u guys swap rims out at home?

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Old 10-23-2005 | 12:46 PM
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i tried doing this w/ factory wrench & scissor jack.. HOLY$HIT it took forever and i was BEAT as h3ll !! loosening/tightening 20 bolts were

almost made the $5/rim discount tire charges to swap out rims (they use a air gun to loosen & torque wrench to exactly 88 lb ft) very very reasonable.

how do u guys do it, and how long does it take???? i could buy Craftsman jack & jackstands and a torque wrench, but to swap out rims twice a year??? plus this doesn't make the bolt loosening/tightening any easier.. get a air gun??!
Old 10-23-2005 | 12:52 PM
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Many of us do this swap twice a year. I have a floor jack, jack stands, torque wrench, speed wrench, 1/2" socket set and even an impact gun. It takes me about 30 minutes to change a set of rims/tires.
However, if changing rims/tires is all you plan to do, getting all this stuff is not worth it. Those of us who have these sorts of tools, are generally doing all sorts of shadetree mechanic stuff.
Old 10-23-2005 | 12:59 PM
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It would take you longer to simply drive to Discount Tire than it does to swap out my rims. I have a 3.5 ton jack, and extended lug nut wrench and a torque wrench. It takes 20 minutes.

1. Pull front of the car onto wooden blocks (clearance for my jack)
2. Loosen all lug nuts a little. I have a special lug nut set that has plastic sleeves inside and out to keep fron beating up my wheels.
3. Jack back of car up using the diff as lift point. Change rear wheels and secure lugs.
4. Jack front of car using the front cross bar as a lifting pint. Swap both front rims. Secure lugs
5. Lower jack and torque all lugs to 90ft/lb torque.
Old 10-23-2005 | 05:57 PM
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I haven't done it on this car but on my old MR2 I used to do it about 2 times a month swapping out rim/tire combos. I could do it in about 15 minutes for all 4 but then again it was a stiff/short car and I could get both wheels on one side up at the same time if I used the right area As long as your lugs aren't overtightened to begin with it's not that hard to break them loose and get them all changed out with a standard jack...I wouldn't do it all the time with the scissor jack though, that would be a major pain.
Old 10-24-2005 | 06:56 AM
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I don't swap wheels around on a regular basis, but I do have to service the brakes pretty often on my track car and that requires removing all four wheels, and later putting them back on.

It takes me about 1hr from start to finish to swap out a full set of brakes (pads only.) including jacking the car up, and pulling the car out of the garage when I am done.

The trick is: Don't use the scissor jack and lug wrench that comes with the car. Those are designed to be compact, cheap, and used for emergencies. At home, I have a low-profile floor jack that can get under my car without any ramps and 4 jack stands. I have a big lug wrench (the X shaped ones, it was <$20 at Pep Boys) and a torque wrench. The whole setup was <$200 and more than half that cost was in the jack. Cheaper alternatives exists, but you may need a ramp (could be as simple as a single 2x8)
Old 10-24-2005 | 09:28 AM
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fairly fast, hand (un)thread lugs.... (about 1 hr last weekend)
low profile aluminum race jack, $80 harbor freight
18" breaker bar
19mm socket
craftsman torque wrench

faster....
goodyear racing 250lbf 18v impact driver - remove lugs
firestorm 18v impact driver (alot less torque) - put lugs back on
torque wrench to tighten.

biggest time consumer.... moving the wheels the 50yards and flight of stairs between my apt and where I can park.
Old 10-25-2005 | 01:56 AM
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how is this even a topic,honestly?.
anyway,,in this past week n a half,ive swapped my wheels about 4 times..shouldnt be a difficult thing (unless ur just worrying about getting ur clothes dirty or something.lol).a Man should not have a single prob doing something as simple as this,for real..thats silly

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Old 10-25-2005 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by xviper,Oct 23 2005, 03:52 PM
Many of us do this swap twice a year.
More like twice a day!

I break the lugs loose with a breaker bar. Jack up one side of the car with a Harbor freight aluminum racing jack. Spin the lug nuts off with a $20 cordless drill. Spin 'em on with same drill. Snug 'em up with the breaker bar. Drop the car. Repeat on other side. Torque 'em down with the torque wrench. All done in 15 minutes.
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