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Conti DW or Michelin PSS?

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Old 04-25-2012 | 07:55 AM
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Default Conti DW or Michelin PSS?

Need new tires for the S, I've heard good things about the Conti in regards to value and having good grip. I heard the side-walls are a bit soft though.

Heard some really good things about the PSS's but a set delivered and installed is about $850 vs. $600 for the Conti DW's.

Anybody chime in on these tires or a recommendation? These are going on a stock AP2, just really need excellent grip on roads in both dry and wet. Less road noise is a plus.

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Old 04-25-2012 | 07:59 AM
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PSSs are ftw
Old 04-25-2012 | 08:09 AM
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I have the DW and have 600 miles on them. They ride comfortably and are quiet. I took it out to my first road course on Sunday. I wish I could give you feedback on how they are on the track but I'm a complete newb.
Old 04-25-2012 | 09:42 AM
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Hi, I just put a set of the Conti's on my '05 and I love them. They're a lot nicer on brick streets and bumps in general. Quieter than the Hankooks they repaced.
Good grip too, but the guys who compete say the sidewalls are too compliant. If your not tracking it I think they're hard to beat. Supposed to be great in the wet too!
Old 04-25-2012 | 09:51 AM
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I think you're going to have a hard time finding someone who has tried BOTH of these tires and can compare them in an objective manner. Instead what you're going to get is a bunch of opinions based on hearsay.

I was in a similar decision a while back and went with the PSS for the higher grip and slightly more responsive handling. So far I'm extremely happy with them. They ride quiet and smooth. They also have an absolutely staggering amount of grip. On clean, dry pavement I have yet to get them to break loose. I've thrown myself into corners where I was honestly very scared and these tires pulled me out looking like a champ. I could get the RE050 to break loose and slide fairly predictably with aggressive driving. These things just don't break loose regardless how how I drive (even borderline reckless). On wet pavement I've had no issues with traction or hydroplaning at all, even in standing water.

So regardless of the high price of the PSS, I'm extremely happy with them. If you want the best all around street tire, I'd say they're worth a good hard look. That said, the DW is a fine tire for those on more of a budget.
Old 04-25-2012 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by deepbluejh
I think you're going to have a hard time finding someone who has tried BOTH of these tires and can compare them in an objective manner. Instead what you're going to get is a bunch of opinions based on hearsay.

I was in a similar decision a while back and went with the PSS for the higher grip and slightly more responsive handling. So far I'm extremely happy with them. They ride quiet and smooth. They also have an absolutely staggering amount of grip. On clean, dry pavement I have yet to get them to break loose. I've thrown myself into corners where I was honestly very scared and these tires pulled me out looking like a champ. I could get the RE050 to break loose and slide fairly predictably with aggressive driving. These things just don't break loose regardless how how I drive (even borderline reckless). On wet pavement I've had no issues with traction or hydroplaning at all, even in standing water.

So regardless of the high price of the PSS, I'm extremely happy with them. If you want the best all around street tire, I'd say they're worth a good hard look. That said, the DW is a fine tire for those on more of a budget.
I agree with the above statement, since that's the 2 tires I was looking at (Tirerack has a comparo of this tires plus 2 other I can't remember right now which might help you out with your decision). When making my decision I was also looking at the $ difference but since I had the money I also decided to try them by what I saw in the Tirerack test. Excellent in the rain in which the DW also excell. But I've managed to slide the tires, not on purpose, while doing laps on a go kart track. Apparently they got way to hot because on the next turn the car also slided without charging or taking the corner to hard. But besides that time excellent grip and you can feel when the tire starting to loose grip and make the corrections.

I would recommend the PSS if money is no issue.
Old 04-30-2012 | 12:10 AM
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I also have the PSS on my car. Like stated above, I have not been able to get the back end to come out of sharp corners. They just STICK to the ground. Also a very quiet and smooth riding tire. No question I will get another set of these.

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Old 04-30-2012 | 10:42 AM
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having owned only DW but driven on both

PSS: more expensive, marginally more dry grip, more responsive

DW: cheaper, unbeatable in the wet, not as responsive, slightly more comfy ride

I went with DW because I DD the car and liked the combo of price and wet performance, I have another set of rims with Hankook RS3's for autocross and such.

overall, it depends on what you are looking for and what your budget is.
Old 04-30-2012 | 10:57 AM
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DW So comfy it makes me want to drive more and hold grip fine even with sc. Good tire *pat pat*
Old 05-01-2012 | 08:21 PM
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i love my conti DW's, they handled just fine at the track and are extremely quiet on the highways, they absorb bumps well on city streets and decrease the road noise inside the cabin quite a bit. Went through a horrible downpour and felt safe with no hydroplaning at all. They definitely dont have star spec/rs3 dry grip but they grip much better than the stock re050's i thought. Im running -2.5 degrees of camber in the rear and they wear pretty even after 6k miles.



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