Advan Neova AD08r 225/255 on OEM 17" ?
06-02-2014, 02:13 AM
#1
Advan Neova AD08r 225/255 on OEM 17" ?
Hey there, as it is quite hard to find any dealer in Europe who sells the Yokohama Advan Neova AD08r for the OEM 17" dimensions (215/45/17 + 245/40/17) I was thiniung about ordering them in:
225/45/17
255/40/17
But does that fit on the OEM 17" wheel and a 2004 (facelift) Honda S2000 without any lowering? I read that the ADVAN NEOVA AD08r is wider than any usual tires?
Does anyone have experience with this dimension?
Thanks
225/45/17
255/40/17
But does that fit on the OEM 17" wheel and a 2004 (facelift) Honda S2000 without any lowering? I read that the ADVAN NEOVA AD08r is wider than any usual tires?
Does anyone have experience with this dimension?
Thanks
06-02-2014, 09:39 AM
#4
Site Moderator
Why do you think it is a worse combo? Is it because they don't stock the 215? These run wide so a 215 would fit better on the 7 inch wide front wheel but a 225 will fit just may look bubbled a bit.
06-02-2014, 09:57 AM
#5
A 215/245 F/R combo will "feel better" and more responsive on spirited drives.
A 225/255 F/R combo will have higher ultimate grip, better tolerance for heat, and not grease up as quickly when driving on the track. You will sacrifice some responsiveness and steering feel, though. It will be slightly more numb than the above setup but is likely to turn better lap times (all else being equal).
A 215/255 F/R combo will have better steering feel/responsiveness up front but will likely be pushy and understeer a bit. I found even the 225/255 combo to understeer a bit more than I'd like for my specific driving style. I would surmise the 215/255 combo would naturally understeer more than 225/255. I discovered this after finally moving to a 17x9 255 square setup.
Back to the point. 225/255 will fit just fine on the stock 17x7F and 17x8.5R wheels. I tracked my car on OEM suspension with this specific setup for 2 years. I would run at least -1.5 camber all around, and more if you can. My specific setup was -1.8F and -2.2 rear.
Tires used for these setups
-The original RE-11 (runs wide)
-version 1 RS3 (also runs wide)
A 225/255 F/R combo will have higher ultimate grip, better tolerance for heat, and not grease up as quickly when driving on the track. You will sacrifice some responsiveness and steering feel, though. It will be slightly more numb than the above setup but is likely to turn better lap times (all else being equal).
A 215/255 F/R combo will have better steering feel/responsiveness up front but will likely be pushy and understeer a bit. I found even the 225/255 combo to understeer a bit more than I'd like for my specific driving style. I would surmise the 215/255 combo would naturally understeer more than 225/255. I discovered this after finally moving to a 17x9 255 square setup.
Back to the point. 225/255 will fit just fine on the stock 17x7F and 17x8.5R wheels. I tracked my car on OEM suspension with this specific setup for 2 years. I would run at least -1.5 camber all around, and more if you can. My specific setup was -1.8F and -2.2 rear.
Tires used for these setups
-The original RE-11 (runs wide)
-version 1 RS3 (also runs wide)
06-03-2014, 04:55 PM
#6
A 215/245 F/R combo will "feel better" and more responsive on spirited drives.
A 225/255 F/R combo will have higher ultimate grip, better tolerance for heat, and not grease up as quickly when driving on the track. You will sacrifice some responsiveness and steering feel, though. It will be slightly more numb than the above setup but is likely to turn better lap times (all else being equal).
A 215/255 F/R combo will have better steering feel/responsiveness up front but will likely be pushy and understeer a bit. I found even the 225/255 combo to understeer a bit more than I'd like for my specific driving style. I would surmise the 215/255 combo would naturally understeer more than 225/255. I discovered this after finally moving to a 17x9 255 square setup.
Back to the point. 225/255 will fit just fine on the stock 17x7F and 17x8.5R wheels. I tracked my car on OEM suspension with this specific setup for 2 years. I would run at least -1.5 camber all around, and more if you can. My specific setup was -1.8F and -2.2 rear.
Tires used for these setups
-The original RE-11 (runs wide)
-version 1 RS3 (also runs wide)
A 225/255 F/R combo will have higher ultimate grip, better tolerance for heat, and not grease up as quickly when driving on the track. You will sacrifice some responsiveness and steering feel, though. It will be slightly more numb than the above setup but is likely to turn better lap times (all else being equal).
A 215/255 F/R combo will have better steering feel/responsiveness up front but will likely be pushy and understeer a bit. I found even the 225/255 combo to understeer a bit more than I'd like for my specific driving style. I would surmise the 215/255 combo would naturally understeer more than 225/255. I discovered this after finally moving to a 17x9 255 square setup.
Back to the point. 225/255 will fit just fine on the stock 17x7F and 17x8.5R wheels. I tracked my car on OEM suspension with this specific setup for 2 years. I would run at least -1.5 camber all around, and more if you can. My specific setup was -1.8F and -2.2 rear.
Tires used for these setups
-The original RE-11 (runs wide)
-version 1 RS3 (also runs wide)
After moving to non-staggered 255 all around, I love the overall improvement in grip, but the decreased steering feel/responsiveness makes the car worse to drive when you're not pushing past 6/10ths
What are your goals? Are you daily driving or planning to track or be in a certain autocross class?
If it's daily driven you might as well stick with 215/255 to maintain responsive feeling.
06-03-2014, 06:55 PM
#7
225/255 will fit just fine. The difference between 215 and 225 upfront is very minimal and the difference in heat tolerance and braking grip and improved balance is well worth it.
If you are well versed in driving the S2000 and want to go faster, get 225/255. If you are fairly new to it get 215/245 so you maintain all of the feel in the car. If you can't get them in the OEM sizes pick up the 225/255 setup.
If you are well versed in driving the S2000 and want to go faster, get 225/255. If you are fairly new to it get 215/245 so you maintain all of the feel in the car. If you can't get them in the OEM sizes pick up the 225/255 setup.
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06-04-2014, 09:25 AM
#8
Registered User
agreed...225s up front is a better choice, even for a 7" wheel. I run 225/255 on both the star specs and conti DWs. AP2s already understeer, and 215/255 combo would just increase that [undesirable] tendency.
