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Old 10-27-2006, 09:12 AM
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I run f-225 and r-255
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Originally Posted by gomarlins3,Oct 27 2006, 10:59 AM
My track tires are 225 front, but the rears are 265. I have run a rear of 245 also.
Are you saying you ran a 245 with 225's? If so, how did they hold up? As you can see, these guys are saying get a 255 to prevent some snap oversteer.


Also, how did the 265's treat you? And what wheels were these sitting on (if not stock)?
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I prefer the 265's, but the 245's weren't bad.
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I run 225/255 Falken RT-615's on my AP2 wheels. Handling has a more planted feel since the upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Mark16q,Oct 26 2006, 01:08 PM
I just ordered 215/45 and 255/40 x 17 Azenis 615's today (to go on stock AP2 rims) hoping to keep stagger within reason. They should be in tomorrow, so we'll see how balanced the car feels soon.

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one of the local SD guys ran this set up, and he said his car is understeering when pushed. hopefully he will chime in here.
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Originally Posted by silentdancer,Oct 27 2006, 06:15 PM
one of the local SD guys ran this set up, and he said his car is understeering when pushed. hopefully he will chime in here.
there's no doubt that it will understeer, similar stagger to oem ap2 tires, and ap2's understeer a alot imo.
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Originally Posted by [AP2-2NV
,Oct 28 2006, 07:24 AM] there's no doubt that it will understeer, similar stagger to oem ap2 tires, and ap2's understeer a alot imo.
It may depend on alignment...I had mine redone when new at slightly more aggressive camber settings than stock. Last time at the track on stock tires, when pushed hard I was oversteering if anything...the front end never pushed. As the 215 and 255 setup is less stagger than stock, can't imagine it will understeer more than stock....we'll see.

Just had the tires put on the rims last night, and hope to get them on the car today.

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Originally Posted by Mark16q,Oct 28 2006, 02:56 PM
It may depend on alignment...I had mine redone when new at slightly more aggressive camber settings than stock. Last time at the track on stock tires, when pushed hard I was oversteering if anything...the front end never pushed. As the 215 and 255 setup is less stagge than stock, can't imagine it will understeer more than stock....we'll see.

Just had the tires put on the rims last night, and hope to get them on the car today. My next track day is next month, but hoping to get a good feel for them in some local canyons


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i'm on uk specs. and while i do agree that the understeer has decreased by using more camber up front, my car's natural tendancy is to understeer..

however, i find the behavior so neutral that at any given moment i can choose wether to push the front, step out the back, or slide on all 4. so it's not all too bad
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Originally Posted by [AP2-2NV
,Oct 28 2006, 11:59 AM]i'm on uk specs. and while i do agree that the understeer has decreased by using more camber up front, my car's natural tendancy is to understeer..

however, i find the behavior so neutral that at any given moment i can choose wether to push the front, step out the back, or slide on all 4. so it's not all too bad
You got it on the neutral handling...don't know if you'd read any of my posts about my choice (very torn between 225 and 215), but the handling was so neutral I could get it to do whatever I wanted, depending on my guts at that particular moment. I didn't want to mess with that, as it made the track driving a lot of fun without too many hair-raising moments.

btw, speaking of the UK alignment, it's been a year or so since I did mine and thinking of re-checking it with the new stickies. You have a link for the spec's...I never have good luck with search on this site and am feeling lazy. It's Saturday, after all

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Originally Posted by Mark16q,Oct 28 2006, 03:26 PM
You got it on the neutral handling...don't know if you'd read any of my posts about my choice (very torn between 225 and 215), but the handling was so neutral I could get it to do whatever I wanted, depending on my guts at that particular moment. I didn't want to mess with that, as it made the track driving a lot of fun without too many hair-raising moments.

btw, speaking of the UK alignment, it's been a year or so since I did mine and thinking of re-checking it with the new stickies. You have a link for the spec's...I never have good luck with search on this site and am feeling lazy. It's Saturday, after all

Mark
front

-1 camber
6 caster
0 total toe

my alignment guy couldn't get the caster to 6 tho, he said it maxed out at 5.8 or something.

rear

-2 camber
.25" total toe

these are the actual settings, but my alignment guy couldn't follow them because they're in degrees. the first time i got the uk alignment i ended up with .40 total toe

Front
Caster Left 6


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