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Old 03-05-2019 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Gmcuajo


Did you experienced any of the “sluggish” cornering with the 225 at the front?

What you had before (Michelin pilot sport?) and how do they compare with the Continentals?
I run the Conti's on mine as well, great tire, very predictable and planted. I also have Dunlop Direzza's on a second set of wheels which I've used for track duty, very good tire as well, but the noise is tiresome for normal driving.
Old 03-05-2019 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sam_spider
I run the Conti's on mine as well, great tire, very predictable and planted. I also have Dunlop Direzza's on a second set of wheels which I've used for track duty, very good tire as well, but the noise is tiresome for normal driving.
Does the noise is really that bad???

Honestly, I am not looking to be racing all the time, I don’t think that at end I even go to a track day any day soon. But yes, I like the idea of having good tires.
Old 03-05-2019 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Gmcuajo


Does the noise is really that bad???

Honestly, I am not looking to be racing all the time, I don’t think that at end I even go to a track day any day soon. But yes, I like the idea of having good tires.
Honestly, yes it is that bad. I didn't believe people when they said the tires were noisy, but they aren't kidding. It was a bit of a novelty at first, like wow these tires are grippy, but after a few miles it gets really old. Every expansion joint, the painted lines on the roads, any tar line and you'll hear "verp" as you drive over it. My daughter started calling the S "verp" after a road trip to Mid Ohio because of the tires.
Old 03-05-2019 | 10:52 AM
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Noise is very subjective, the RE71rs are quite known to be quite noisy, but honestly, I don't notice it too much in my CR b/c the car is noisy anyways; in our Lexus though, it is very noticeable, it's even noisier than the snow tires we have on right now!

Gmcuajo, I don't think you would be disappointed in the RE71rs. They are known to wear pretty fast though, I don't mind because I do notice the rubber hardening as the tire ages and so I prefer to have newer tires. Also, 225/255 should not rub on a stock setup.

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Old 03-05-2019 | 11:59 AM
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RE71's are quieter than the Dunlops for sure. I had those on another set of wheels.
Old 03-05-2019 | 12:28 PM
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OP doesn't seem to be interested in tracking his car anytime soon; RE71Rs will just be throwing money away on the street. Same goes for any 200tw tire honestly.

You'll be fine with 214/245 PS4S. The Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s are nice too, and should be available in 225/255 sizes. Not as grippy as a PS4S, but again you're street driving.
Old 03-05-2019 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesD89
OP doesn't seem to be interested in tracking his car anytime soon; RE71Rs will just be throwing money away on the street. Same goes for any 200tw tire honestly.

You'll be fine with 214/245 PS4S. The Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s are nice too, and should be available in 225/255 sizes. Not as grippy as a PS4S, but again you're street driving.
I agree...mostly. On the street, you will rarely if ever go above 60% if the maximum cornering capability and virtually never fully use the brake system except in a panic stop. The absolute limits aren't that critical, especially when they are within 5% or 10% of each other.

On the other hand, steering feel and brake feel can depend largely on tire construction. Ride, noise, and even loading in the turns that keep down the number of steering corrections is also part of tire design.

While I wouldn't say all 200tw tires are not the best street choice, in this case, there are several tires that are better choices.

Unless you drove them back to back it would be hard to tell the difference between some of them The P4S is probably (virtually certainly?) the best street choice. If trying to get the right look and it doesn't come in the right size, then the Conti or others.

Most of the tires mentioned here are in these two tests: Will Two New Competitors Challenge the Best in Ultra High Performance Summer? https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=235 and A Clash of the Titans in Max Performance Summer: The Sequel https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=223

Michelin Pilot Sport 4S (Max Performance Summer 245/40R18 (93Y))
  • What We Liked: Does everything asked of it at a very high level.
  • What We'd Improve: Nothing.
  • Conclusion: We are genuinely impressed.
Continental ExtremeContact Sport (Max Performance Summer, 245/40R18 97Y)
  • What We Liked: Responsive steering and very strong wet traction.
  • What We'd Improve: Road manners aren't as refined as the other tires in this test.
  • Conclusion: Continental has really stepped up their Max Performance Summer game with this one.
Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 (Ultra High Performance Summer 245/40R18 97W)
  • What We Liked: Big grip plus alert handling make it a standout in the dry.
  • What We'd Improve: Average grip plus alert handling make it a handful in the wet.
  • Conclusion: Still a good tire, but the competition has caught up.
Old 03-05-2019 | 02:04 PM
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Price is also an important point. I am planing on buying from Costco as they have right now the Bridgestone on offer ($100 reduced), plus I have a couple bucks cash back.
There are also the Potenza S-04 Pole Position, which nobody mention here.
Are those any good?

Seems to be quiter than the RE-71R, 280tw, and of lower price tag. Although not near the MP4S on tirerack tests.
Old 03-05-2019 | 02:09 PM
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Regarding the Continentals, there are a couple with similar names. Simply, which are the good ones for street?
Old 03-06-2019 | 02:30 AM
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Continental ExtremeContact Sport. I have them. I drive street. More grip than you will ever need on the street. I am happy with these tires. I don't like 225/17 up front. 215/17 works fine and car is more lively. There are other very good tires in this same category as well. Conti is not the only one. Firestone Firehawks are getting excellent reviews here and elsewhere.

The best street set up I have enjoyed is 16" BBS JDM wheels with stock size max performance tires. Bigger tires does not equal better performance on street. In fact, stock sizes are more lively and fun and have PLENTY of grip on the street.

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