All,

Hi, how are you doing.

I recently purchased a set of 4 enkei rpf1's 17x9+45 in size from tirerack. I am running Kumho XS 255/40/17 all around as well.

I have had my front fenders rolled and lining trimmed. They don't seem to rub the fender.. but moreso they seem to rub the inner part of the wheel (metal on metal) to some suspension part when I take turns fast. (load on the suspension to either side)

Has anyone else had this issue? If so, how did you resolve it?

FYI, I am stock height on a 03 AP1.

Thank you.

Robert

 

Probably the control arm. You can notch it a bit where it's rubbing.

 

Thanks for the reply Jin_SK.

I will keep this in mind.

It seems this is a decently common wheel/ tire size on S2000's..

Is there anyone here with this exact set up, on stock suspension, that can chime in about this? I don't want to damage my wheels.

Will maxing the camber out help?

From what I've read.. the max, on stock suspension is give or take 1.5 degrees front and 2.5 degrees back depending on the car.

 

I have never heard of anyone having this issue, there could possibly be something wrong with your suspension or alignment if its rubbing like that. Try this thread and see if you can get any better advice https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/797...1-thread-pt-2/

I am running +38 offset in the RPF1's all around and have no issues of them rubbing on the inside. Are you sure it's metal on metal? look around for wear marks, also check your break calipers to make sure nothing has come lose. On our way to WTDX my buddy somehow lost a bolt on this caliper and it was rubbing against his wheel. Look for anything that may be lose.

 

I also have not heard of any issues with rubbing on the inside. Normally it would hit on the fender lip and you already took care of that. Witht he 45mm offset you should not be having issues on the inside.

 

my initial instinct is that it's an alignment issue. +45s should have no issue rubbing on the inside. maybe pull the wheel off and take pix of where it's rubbing and the damage it's causing

 

how about the rear fenders? were the rolled + bumper tab relocated?

 

I run 8.5 +40 with a wide brand 225 and rub on the inside. If your lowered about 2" or not as low but have softer/oem suspension and run aggressive camber around -2 to -2.5, under close to full lock and under suspension load into a turn, it will rub. A wider 9" wheel that's set further in with the +45 offset doesn't surprise me at all to hear it rubs. Obviously there are several reasons why people have some different results with the same wheels, ie; drop amount, spring rate, sway bar stiffness, tire width and height as well as tire grip level and wheel alignment.

 

Thanks for the all the replys.

I had some time this weekend and took the wheels off and inspected.

Everything is tight, per another member's suggestion to check this.

It seems to be rubbing on the upper arm under compression..


You can see here the slight rubbing and paint chipping it has caused.





You can see in this picture the black paint left overs on the upper arm on the right side.





Picture with the wheel on from underneath, but in the air.







Doesn't make sense to rub here though according to how the S2000 suspension diagram does it.. Under compression, it should pivot at point C and the upper arm should move with the wheel?





Anyone have any input on this? Very strange.

 

Per your last question, you took a picture of the wheel on the hub. How close do you get the control arm when turning the steering to both full locks?

I believe this is a combination of steering angle and compression. You seem to be only focused on compression being the cause. The control arm and the wheel will move at the same right, but a hard turn that compresses the suspension combined with an aggressive steering input is probably the condition that you're rubbing.

That said, I'm on 17x9 +63 with 255/40r star specs. I've always rubbed the wheel to upper control arm at full lock, both sides. Camber & alignment settings are factors to this also.