LOL!!!!

You want Apex to spend money on a new design and cutting a new mold for a wheel spec that already exists just so that you can get a color?!?!?!

Apex - balls in your court. That's the request - make a "me too" wheel, but in a different color pretty please.

 

What are you talking about? They don't make a 17x9.5 wheel in 5x114.3 that can get $2K out the door even during a sale. And for that matter even the titan 7 one you sent is forged so it's well above $2K as well. My request is for a flow formed 17x9.5 wheel in 5x114.3 with good offset and good brake clearance. Apex flow formed options don't come in 5x114.3 OR are only available in 18". I will wait while you find a 17x9.5 wheel with good brake clearance and good offset that can be had for $2K or under out the door. I believe Apex can fulfill this need by offering SM-10 flow formed in 17x9.5 which they currently do not. This has ZERO to do with the finish/color, the finish/color is secondary, THERE SIMPLY IS NO 17x9.5 5x114.3 wheel with good offset and good brake clearance at or under $2K regardless of finish/color. Please stop patronizing me, this thread is to state what you want made, not castigate others because you don't agree with what they are asking for. I am asking Apex here to make their flow formed SM-10 in 17x9.5 with race silver option, that is all at this point. Would it physically be painful to you if they elected to offer such a variation? They already make the SM-10 in flow formed just not in 17" size so it's not like I'm asking for the world here. Thus your point about a spec that already exists is moot, the spec of 17x9.5 flow formed 5x114.3 +51 or maybe even +53/54, affordable does not currently exist, does it? If you can buy the SM-10 flow formed on their site in 17x9.5 I will delete all my comments from this thread but until then or if I strike it rich, I have every right to be in here as a long time S2KI member and state what I would like to see available.

You suggested the T7 at sake bomb, and I said it doesn't come in the right color/finish BUT ALSO the price is still too high because it is forged, how was this not clear? You do know that even if the T7 wheel you sent was in the correct color/finish, it is $2482.80 to my door, right? You are not the arbiter nor police for Apex nor the anointed one that decides what is a worthy request.

 

Yes. This is the thread to make our ask.

What did you mean by "around"?

Also didn't realize that you wanted them to match the back door price and not the TC105X list price of $550 per wheel.

I'm guessing you want that less than $2K price to be all inclusive with Tax and Shipping too? Did you want that less than $2k price to include center caps too? So, literally asking for a wheel that is CHEAPER than the TC105x by a lot, not priced "around it." And, in Silver. Got it. Much more clear. See? i'm helping you in properly clarifying the ask to Apex.
Apex, you taking notes on the request?

 

Enough with the personal attacks, be civil.

 

I don’t have any thing else to add but it’s interesting that SBG hasn’t jacked up the prices of T7 wheels even now. Other places have them for 2200-2300 a set. Is it old stock? Been a long time though so I wouldn’t think.

 

I noticed in your screenshot you didn't include the shipping, only the tax estimate, so it's much higher than that actually. Having said that, correct most places if you ask TC105X will be $2000 out the door. I am looking for that and it's not impossible, Apex has the SM-10 flow formed for in 18x10 size for $2012.49 out the door. So you really think they can't make the SM-10 flow formed in 17x9.5 under $2K out the door? All I'm asking for is essentially the SM-10 flow formed or similar in 17x9.5 in a good offset for this price and in silver? Is that really a huge ask? And no, I really don't care about center caps. I'm pretty sure it would end up being around a 17-18lb wheel which would be lighter than the SA72R and have a potentially better offset too!

 

if you're going through the effort of fitting a 9.5 wheel, why not just run the sa72r 17x10. you have to do the same amount of fender clearing for both.
if you can fit 17x9 rpf1's you can fit the 17x10 sa72r. the 17x10 sa72r fits the bill cost and fitment. the sa72r's dont even need spacers to clear my stoptech c43's.
the wheel weight is not that noticeable. i'd rather have a strong wheel than a light wheel. i've bent enkei and konig wheels plenty before. replacing a cast wheel adds up when you might as well have gone forged to begin with.
The rack limiters are inexpensive and easy to install. I have them, they are only noticeable in a parking lot , you might have to take a wider entry into a parking spot, or do an additional forwards and back adjustment. it has no bearing on a track or autox event. if anything if you have ducts, it helps save those brake ducts.

And for your information i have the following 3 sets of wheels
17x9 +63 ce28's
17x10 +55 sa72r's
17x10 +48 apex vs5rs

 

Yes I have considered the SA72R but the steering rack limiters don't seem ideal to me, the 9.5 +51 would mean less compromises as it has a lot less inset and less poke than the SA72R 17x10 as well according to willtheyfit.com offset calculator. I also like the look of the SM-10 more. The SA72R isn't a bad wheel just wish they made their 9.5 in a better offset! Thus the point of this thread, if we can have a wheel with better offset, less weight, less compromises, less fender clearance to the tune of 2.3mm or even more if they can make a flow formed wheel with +53-57 offset and similar price that looks better, why not?

 

I know that weight is an issue, which you can't get around with the SA-72R, but regarding fitment for the 17x9.5 +47.

What are you using for your camber adjustment? lower offset ball joint? Or offset upper bushing / SPC upper joint?

I recently switched out my lower offset ball joint for the Baero (origin) offset upper bushing for reliability reasons - have been seeing a lot more broken knuckles at the mounting points for the lower offset bushing due to the extra torque lever arm that the offset does (went back to OEM). The switch to Baero gave me a ton more fender clearance - not that i needed it with how my fenders are rolled. I'm running -3.2 camber up front.

 

I have 17x9.5 +51 and I rub pretty hard on lock. I have SPC uppers and 3.2 degrees camber. My SPCs are pulled pretty far in. Don't automatically assume that wheel fitment won't rub. I have the limiters and need to install them. My wheel barrels are already pretty polished though.