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Old 08-17-2006 | 05:05 AM
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what happend to my motor



I'm putting a sticker on my car that reads "screw warranties"
Old 08-17-2006 | 05:14 AM
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So you're telling me to always use the OEM plugs huh.

That sucks man, sorry to hear your claim was denied because of aftermarket spark plugs.

I should never have bought that extended warranty, what a joke.

You should post to the "Tell Honda" forum. Not sure how much good that would do though.
Old 08-17-2006 | 05:28 AM
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Why don't you file a claim with Denso? It's their fault that the engine blew, not Hondas.
Old 08-17-2006 | 06:22 AM
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How did breaking off an electrode cause valve damage on two cylinders? It seems to me that if you broke one plug, you should only have damage in one cylinder, and it seems hard to believe that two plugs went bad at the same time (unless maybe you installed plugs that don't fit our cars). Maybe you should investigate this further. Maybe the plug damage was not the root cause, but something else? A cam problem, an overrev??? could have lead to valve damage and broken electrode??
Old 08-17-2006 | 07:06 AM
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Sounds fishy.
For two reasons, to break an electrode as mentioned, either
1. You used the wrong plugs
2. You pulled a money shift
3. There was a mechanical problem to begin with.

If I am wrong onto the next question,
Why would you ever want to swap out the OEM plugs aside from high mileage?

if you care about your Honda warranty on an S2000 always leave it stock.
Old 08-17-2006 | 07:29 AM
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My point exactly.

2 plugs in two different cylinders had detonation damage. I dunno if they were a different heat range or what. I dunno.

One plug lost the entire electrode and the grounding point was gone too.

The other plug was in better shape. A little bit of the electrode melted off but very minor.

Honda is making it seem like they will cover it. One dealer said NO and the other is working on getting it covered.

I hate this waiting game.
Old 08-17-2006 | 08:55 AM
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No offense, but why should HondaCare pay for your damage? A non-OEM part broke, not an OEM part that they have any control over. Maybe you should try contacting Denso.
Old 08-17-2006 | 09:00 AM
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they should be paying for it because its an aftermarket insurance. Honda care could give a shit about *Honda*
Old 08-17-2006 | 10:06 AM
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BTW, what's the model number of your Denso's? According to my copy of the factory service manual, Denso PK22PR-L11S should be considered OEM replacement plugs. If two cylinders showed evidence of detonation, your ignition timing may have been too far advanced (possibly caused by some other mechanical problem). However, if the plug heat range was too hot, it could have caused the same problem. I wouldn't be too upset with Honda if that's the case.

(Edit: Sorry about that, I posted this before noticing that your Denso's were Iridium and checking the Denso website -- the above part number is for the double platinum plugs. That being said, if the only difference between the two plugs is the material used for construction of the electrode; i.e., iridium is stronger than platinum and less subject to wear, then it's hard for me to believe that caused the problem)
Old 08-17-2006 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by moonliver,Aug 17 2006, 11:00 AM
they should be paying for it because its an aftermarket insurance. Honda care could give a shit about *Honda*
Its aftermarket insurance to cover only factory parts. This would be like your K&N air filter falling apart then sucking pieces of it inside your engine and blaming Honda.


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