Start Autoxing this weekend!
#61
[QUOTE=patinum,Apr 12 2010, 07:59 AM]
Phil (nsx) - the car looked great out there. I'm glad that you had a good time and hope that autox can be the balance between life and racing you're looking for.
I think this will be a great fill in for track days. Though I know the NSX is not the best car when it comes to AutoXing but then again I am out there just to look good.
I liked looking over there to check the results sheet and seeing how much time I had to make up to catch the guy in the Carrerra.... never going to happen.
I was eigth out of the twelve in my group with a 57.1?? I was pissed that I could not do better on my last two runs. I lost a little sleep last night replaying those runs in my head.
Phil (nsx) - the car looked great out there. I'm glad that you had a good time and hope that autox can be the balance between life and racing you're looking for.
I think this will be a great fill in for track days. Though I know the NSX is not the best car when it comes to AutoXing but then again I am out there just to look good.
I liked looking over there to check the results sheet and seeing how much time I had to make up to catch the guy in the Carrerra.... never going to happen.
I was eigth out of the twelve in my group with a 57.1?? I was pissed that I could not do better on my last two runs. I lost a little sleep last night replaying those runs in my head.
#62
Originally Posted by pininfarina456,Apr 12 2010, 08:32 AM
Where do they post results, and how quickly are they up usually?
They are not up as of this post, but I don't think it should be more than a few days.
#64
Originally Posted by patinum,Apr 12 2010, 05:59 AM
Matt - not surprised you did so well Still definitely one of the best beginner's I've seen. I would love to hear your thoughts on the instruction as well. Every year I try to recommend Learning Curve here, but I personally haven't been. It would be good to be able to better explain to people why it's so great for beginners
Based on my experience I'll try to highlight some reasons why the school is good. The instructor to student ratio is quite favorable. Two students per instructor means that you have a lot of one on one time and even if the instructor is with the other student they often encourage you to ride along (if there is space, hard to do in a 2 seater). There have been times when I used to instruct, if the car had 4 seats, I had the car full of students. The more times you can get a look at the course at speed the better. Also the instructors assigned are usually used to driving a similar car, so they know what works and what doesn't. And a note on the instructors, in the 14 years that I have been autocrossing the depth of talent in the Chicago region is the best it's ever been. There are more drivers with National credentials than I ever remember. It makes it tough to get a good result, but when you do you know you've beaten some of the best in the country. So even if you don't get a National champ as an instructor chances are you'll still get someone who could place very well at a National event just on experience.
On the first day they break a big course up into two smaller courses. Typically you'll get 6-8 runs on the smaller courses each. Sunday they put the two courses together to get a feel for a normal SCCA course length and speeds. The plus side of this is you don't have to worry about learning a new course, just mentally put the two elements together. You still need to walk it to find the changes but remembering the majority of the course is half the battle. Seat time is the other. No amount of money spent on a car will make it go faster than seat time.
It's a bummer they didn't get the extra run in but lunch has always been a problem with the learning curve as far as I could remember. We just have the hardest time getting food sorted.
#65
Originally Posted by patinum,Apr 12 2010, 08:59 AM
Matt - not surprised you did so well Still definitely one of the best beginner's I've seen. I would love to hear your thoughts on the instruction as well. Every year I try to recommend Learning Curve here, but I personally haven't been. It would be good to be able to better explain to people why it's so great for beginners
The event went like this:
Day 1:
Class room from about 9am to 10:30am. Covers all the basic stuff about autocross
10:30am to 1pm. Meet the instructors, tech cars, lunch.
1pm-5pm. DRIVE! They break the course into two smaller courses. We spent about 1.25 hours driving each course. As many runs as time allows. For first timers, the shorter courses are easier to memorize. For more experienced people you have lots of repetitions to try out different things. You also spend a heat working one of the courses.
Day2:
Run like a regular autocross. The instructors will drive the first half of the heat and take the students for rides. This is probably the first time the student will experience what the instructor has been teaching. The students drive the second half and try to replicate what they learned from riding.
Recommending this to beginners is a fantastic idea. The "I don't want to be the worst driver" fear is minimized since it is all beginners. The instructors are always around for questions. The instructors work the course with the students to teach course work. Anyone who has never done autocross before could come to this event and learn everything they need to know in a comfortable and fun environment.
#70
Ah yeah, Dan is a really good guy. I think he missed a lot of last season so he might be a little rusty but he is another one of those instructors who has National level experience. He'll be fast on good tires.
I'm happy to hear about the good results on star specs since that's what I'll be running this year as well. I didn't want to buck up for the R1R or risk the Hankooks. *specs seemed like the safe bet.
I'm happy to hear about the good results on star specs since that's what I'll be running this year as well. I didn't want to buck up for the R1R or risk the Hankooks. *specs seemed like the safe bet.