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Old 12-27-2007 | 09:36 PM
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Driving up an on ramp (a right turn) and keeping a steady 51 in a 45 suggested,
keeping with traffic.
Coming out of the turn my tail end slides to the left on me and im reverse to traffic flow headed toward the ditch. On my attemp to correct the slide I steered left and hit the brakes (didn't mash on them), not having brought steering back to position after 180, My tail end hit snow and dug a little dirt, front end wheels caught and I ended back in traffic flow direction and stopped.. Shut car off immediatly and stepped out to see what the damages were.

Beside the painfully critical blow to my pride, I have a dinged passanger muffeler and my tip came off.. I had a muffeler full of mud/dirt and snow inside.

No dents, scratches and anything broken visually as I have seen.
Couple co-workers helped me out getting out of the ditch.
Seriously owe them for helping me.

No popped tires, and no dislocated anything (except exaust tip)
Car drove 19 miles home like nothing happed... drove nervously at first hoping all is well.. So far so good. Then about 5 miles of nothing wrong, I attemped a vtec to guage if anything engine wise was irregular. Ran like nothing happend..

Now back onto rural streets, I take a right onto a small "highway" and mid-way into the turn with moderate acceleration, my tail end starts to slide on me again!
This was between dead stop and 13 mph.

Thankfully far slower then the origonal loss of control.. Gained traction pretty quickly afterwards.

When I got home I decided to further my inspection for any hint of damage or stress. Nothing, just mud stains and a dinged muffeler. No leaking of any kind from the engine, no wierd noises, no CEL blinking... Nothing..

Im far from accepting that nothing is wrong, I've got a diff fluid change at a Honda dealer tomarro at 9am. What should I have them do beside the scheduled change?

I realize my age and many other people out there with soo much to say about that.
So honestly, keep all posts directed to S2000's condition or possible conditions and shove off if you intend on offeding me by comparing me with other teens.

Old 12-27-2007 | 09:50 PM
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Are you still driving on summer tires? I'm sure you know how bad summer tires are. I have snow tires on my S and they are no problem in this weather. Hopefully everything is fine with the car. You should request to see the underside of your car while it's lifted so you may inspect yourself. I don't really know what to look for specifically if the car "seems" normal
Old 12-27-2007 | 10:11 PM
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Suprizingly im on all weather tires, treadlife is good also.
Old 12-28-2007 | 08:35 AM
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On ramps usually end with a decreasing radius turn. If you kept a the throttle steady and turned more, the back end could come out a bit. Increasing speed or not taking ramps as fast would keep you on your path.

Not sure why you would loose the back end on a slow turn though if you're on all seasons. Black ice maybe?

Anyway, you may already know this, but for everyone else's benefit -> Lifting while turning = loose back end. Just drive the S conservatively in the winter.

You're tires the proper stagger? Tire pressures?
Old 12-28-2007 | 12:15 PM
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I think black ice is a possibility. There has been some melting and re-freezing around here. I slipped yesterday and almost wiped out walking to my garage. Imnida, glad you and your S are OK.
Old 12-28-2007 | 01:15 PM
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It is looking like a possibility of black ice assuming there really is nothing wrong with your car. I would also take a look at your tire pressure as patinum mentioned. I'm glad you made it out alright, and even better that your S made it out just fine as well.
Old 12-28-2007 | 08:56 PM
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Thanks JSnow847, patinum, VAD an NoRawkus305.

I also have a reason to buy a performance exhaust now!!
Old 12-28-2007 | 11:09 PM
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glad your safe. i'm still using my 18's even though i should be using my snow tires. be careful driving in this weather.
Old 12-29-2007 | 05:58 AM
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I think Patinum has the right idea on the entrance ramp. It's possible that you tweaked the rear suspension then, and that would account for your loss of control at slower speeds.

Get an alignment done, and have them check to see if anything is bent in the rear suspension (control arms) or if the bushings are distorted.
Old 12-29-2007 | 02:19 PM
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How about investing in a $1000-2000 beater for the winter? I think most of us local guys would suggest having a second car. I'm sure you thought about that one.

I've got all season tires on my S with a lot of treadlife, but our rear end is so light that tappin on the gas going straight causes me to fishtail. Again, going straight and tapping on the gas can whip out the rear end.

I've experienced a loss of control once and almost nearly shat on myself. I will never take this car out if I know there is a chance of snow or if the temp is going to fall below 32F.


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