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MeisterR GT1 Coilovers - Opinion

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Old 11-06-2014 | 10:00 AM
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MeisterR has been working over the past 2 years on the development of an amazing British engineered suspension.
We didn't want to make something simply different, we wanted to make the best and compete with the best offerings on the market.
We have finally arrived at the finish line and the new MeisterR GT1 Coilovers are finally ready.

The GT1 coilovers are developed in collaboration between MeisterR and Black Art Design (BAD).
BAD is a well known British suspension company responsible for many race winning cars.
Their portfolio range from the DAX Rush, Noble, Classic Austin Martin, to the fastest privateer Ford RS200 in the Colorado Pike Peaks.

The GT1 coilovers have many custom in-house made parts that are truly cutting edge engineering.
As there are so many technical features on the GT1 coilovers, we are still compiling a presentation that can show off these features in an easy to read format.

But here is a little teaser video I made up for the GT1 Coilovers


http://youtu.be/GXsTFyuo8UM


The GT1 coilovers retail at £1650, and we want to provide a few benefits to members that may be interested.

Here are a few points we are thinking about and we want the community's opinion.

1. Life-Time Warranty on hydraulic function to the original purchaser:
That is right, the GT1 damper is built to such a high specification that technically speaking, unless it is physically damaged (such as a bent / scored shaft), it will continue to operate forever… even under racing condition.
However, parts exposed to the element will wear over time so you really can't give a lifetime warranty on those, but the actual damper itself will continue to function for years, we are that confident of the quality.

The warranty means, if you go to Nurburg every weekend and a damper failed after a run 3 years later, we will rebuild it for free.
If you crash into the Armco and bent the rod, or run into the gravel and scored the damper shaft causing the damper to fail, then it isn't cover. Sounds pretty fair?

2. Upgrade from Zeta-S / Zeta-R / Europa to GT1 Coilovers:
We feel that some MeisterR owners would want to upgrade to the GT1 in the future. So we want to make an upgrade program for those who have purchased the Zeta-S / Zeta-R / Europa coilovers.
Our initial thought is, you can purchase a set of GT1 coilovers, and after installation you can send back your old set of MeisterR coilovers and we will refund you £350 (Around 50% of the purchase price) for your old set.
That way you get a brand new set GT1 in your hand, and there is no need to try to sell the old set of suspensions or wait for a rebuild.

So what do you think of the life-time warranty and the upgrade option with the GT1 Coilovers?
Do you have anything else that you feel could be beneficial to the end user.

We are always open to opinions and suggestions.

Jerrick / Edwin
Old 11-07-2014 | 05:40 AM
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Just watched video but it didn't show much info on your product think we need a lot more info because the price range their in puts them in some stiff competition from other companies like kw, ohlins
Old 11-07-2014 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Krisbuc
Just watched video but it didn't show much info on your product think we need a lot more info because the price range their in puts them in some stiff competition from other companies like kw, ohlins
While the outside of the GT1 look similar to the Zeta-R, the internal is completely different.

I'll try to name a few parts, but there are quite a lot:
1. GT1 Piston: Precision CNC Aluminium: there are quite a few feature in this piston, I will work put up the details later.
2. GT1 bump stop: Progressive rate bump stop design to come into play progressively to aid comfort.
3. GT1 damper shaft seal: CNC made in house using Ultrasound tested Austrian Polyurethane.
A normal damper will never exceed 40 bars of pressure, our shaft seal is rated to 400 bars.

This damper shaft seal is one main reason we offer a Life-time Warranty, because it is actually that good.
Like I said before, the life-time warranty is for the life of the original purchaser, but no limitation on time or miles.
The long as nothing is physically damaged such as a bent rod or a score shaft, we will rebuild it free of charge if oil leak because the shaft seal fail.

BAD have use this seal in Rally Cars that come back for a rebuild 5 years later and the seal look new.
This isn't something that can be bought off the shelf, that is why we make them in house. smile.png

We haven't done any back to back testing against the Zeta-R (also it is something difficult to quantify).
But we know the GT1 will out last the Zeta (or any other suspension for that matter) pretty much in a test of durability.

The GT1 use an ultra high heat index hydraulic oil from Millers, what that mean is the GT1 will not suffer fade issue no matter how hard you push the suspensions (BAD use the same oil in Rally cars).

All the internal of the GT1 are made in the UK (most of the bits are CNC machined… in Essex), and assemble at BAD headquarter in Essex also.

Jerrick
Old 11-09-2014 | 02:06 AM
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looks a damn fine product Jerrick

cannot argue with lifetime warranty

any S2000's currently using the setup? how street-able compared to say the Ohlins DFV?
Old 11-09-2014 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by pedro_rallye
looks a damn fine product Jerrick

cannot argue with lifetime warranty

any S2000's currently using the setup? how street-able compared to say the Ohlins DFV?
There will be some shortly I am sure.
I mean we are just releasing the first few GT1 preorder… next week.

The idea of the GT1 is to be the best 1-way adjustable fast road / track use suspension on the market.
With that said, arguably the "bench mark" is the Ohlins DFV.

Our focus have been engineering something that is better, which is quite an ambitious goal… and I am confident that we done it.
We have no doubt put some extremely advance technology into a very competitive package.

The lifetime warranty is the result of our engineering, not marketing gimmick.
The best warranty is one that you don't have to use, and with that said we don't expect GT1 go come back because the main seal have blown.

BAD have seen rally car with the same seal in their suspension that look brand new after 5 years of usage.
If it is that good and easy to do, everyone will do it.
The fact no other manufacturer use such an advance seal is because it is extremely difficult to do… and we are doing it because we could.

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Old 12-02-2014 | 01:10 AM
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A quick view of the first few set of the new MeisterR GT1 coilovers.

Mitsubishi Evolution X [ CZ4A ] ( Also available for EVO4 CP9A to EVO9 CT9A )





Toyota GT86[ ZN6 ] / Subaru BRZ [ ZC6 ]




Nissan Skyline R32 GTR [ BNR32 ] ( Also available for R33 / R34 / R35 )




We will have more technical details for release soon.

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Old 12-02-2014 | 07:23 AM
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exchange option is a nice touch. out of interest. what do you do with the old ones?
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Originally Posted by flybikeslee
exchange option is a nice touch. out of interest. what do you do with the old ones?
We haven't actually figure that out yet.
We want to give a "next level" option for existing MeisterR to go to.

We will decide what to do once we get more trade in.

Jerrick
Old 12-04-2014 | 11:16 PM
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It would be nice to hear from users who have upgraded, see what their experiences/opinions are.
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Originally Posted by chrispayze
It would be nice to hear from users who have upgraded, see what their experiences/opinions are.
As these are quite new, but in time I am sure we will hear more review from S2000 owners.
I am waiting for some feedback from a MOSS Supercharged MX5, as they tested the Zeta and then upgrade to the GT1.

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