Unsigned NIPs.. High Court Decision.
08-04-2003, 02:15 AM
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If it's a Truvelo, then your face will probably be visible in the picture, if they decide to clamp down on non-signers (and it's a fair bet they will - can't have the great unwashed taking any sort of initiative, they'll end up voting tory of we're not careful) then cases like your might well be the way they use - he didn't sign but we have a picture of his face.....
It's easy to say don't sign and see what happens, but if it were me I think I would proably take the rap. Sorry
It's easy to say don't sign and see what happens, but if it were me I think I would proably take the rap. Sorry
08-04-2003, 03:57 AM
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moff:
There are thousands of unsigned ones in the pipeline, so you wouldn't be on your own. However, until someone appeals a conviction on the issue, and the case goes to the High Court for a decision one way or the other, and more to the point... wins, ...it's a dodgy business, and potentially extremely expensive.
If they do have your photo, and an unsigned NIP, then as I see it, someone is going to have to come to see you with the photo and then submit a statement of evidence that in their opinion you are the person shown in it. The photo will become exhibit 'A'. That may well be enough to proceed regardless of the issue of the unsigned notice. It's very much all in the air at the moment, with huges sums of revenue involved. The reality is that if convicted you'd be severly penalised, more so than if you paid it in the first instance.
Your call mate, perhaps Mark's right.
There are thousands of unsigned ones in the pipeline, so you wouldn't be on your own. However, until someone appeals a conviction on the issue, and the case goes to the High Court for a decision one way or the other, and more to the point... wins, ...it's a dodgy business, and potentially extremely expensive.
If they do have your photo, and an unsigned NIP, then as I see it, someone is going to have to come to see you with the photo and then submit a statement of evidence that in their opinion you are the person shown in it. The photo will become exhibit 'A'. That may well be enough to proceed regardless of the issue of the unsigned notice. It's very much all in the air at the moment, with huges sums of revenue involved. The reality is that if convicted you'd be severly penalised, more so than if you paid it in the first instance.
Your call mate, perhaps Mark's right.
08-04-2003, 10:12 AM
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I decided to send mine in unsigned. Fallback position is " Oops an oversight but now that you brought it to my attention, where exactly does it say I must sign ??"
Lets see what happens
Allan
Lets see what happens
Allan
08-04-2003, 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by uktrucks
I decided to send mine in unsigned. Fallback position is " Oops an oversight but now that you brought it to my attention, where exactly does it say I must sign ??"
Lets see what happens
Allan
I decided to send mine in unsigned. Fallback position is " Oops an oversight but now that you brought it to my attention, where exactly does it say I must sign ??"
Lets see what happens
Allan
Mike
Hmmm... devious mind at work there.... and a post whore in the making?
08-05-2003, 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by mikerich
So - is the answer to wear a black balaclava - can't be worse than the baseball cap I don't wear 'cos I look a prat
So - is the answer to wear a black balaclava - can't be worse than the baseball cap I don't wear 'cos I look a prat
08-05-2003, 01:17 AM
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Originally posted by uktrucks
I decided to send mine in unsigned. Fallback position is " Oops an oversight but now that you brought it to my attention, where exactly does it say I must sign ??"
Lets see what happens
Allan
I decided to send mine in unsigned. Fallback position is " Oops an oversight but now that you brought it to my attention, where exactly does it say I must sign ??"
Lets see what happens
Allan
I'll let you know waht happens ...........
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