put these on yesterday and now most of the skittishness, scuttling, slight unpredictability and sudden breaking away has gone, along with the sharp tankslap when you over-correct a little too much. My butt tells me it is an awful lot safer in this weather and in general, as the sliding now feels totally progressive. Which in fairness is what spoon said it would do.

 

Interesting - Chris Type R felt that the rear brace gave his car more snap oversteer

Chris - do you still feel the same?

I really like the front cross brace on my car

 

it just seems to feel more progressive with everything including snap oversteer, but thinking more, maybe it's because I can control the initial slide better, therefore am not seeing the snapback in the first place. Hmmm, better be very mindful of that, cheers for the feedback. It is just my feeling as well, I'm not a racing driver or anything!

Yesterday Lickermat and I put both braces on my car and just the front on his (he's still waiting for the rear). We then drove them both to compare. His is still skittish (although a lot better) but mine is not, so the rear must be having a big effect. However he has more tread on the rears so they may just be giving up a little later. All butt stuff and in no way scientific!!! However I am properly convinced that mine's safer - however this does not mean in any way shape or form that I am about to start 'maxxing the envelope' on every wet slidy corner, far from it. I don't wanna be a statistic.

 

sh1t how many times can I use 'however' in one post?

 

Pics!?

MB

 

Lickermat has got some pics I think, if not then he'll get some when he fits the rear very soon.

The parts are here:
http://www.spooneurope.com/html/products/b...ss_beam_bar.php

 

[QUOTE=bluenomad,Nov 20 2005, 01:02 PM] it just seems to feel more progressive with everything including snap oversteer, but thinking more, maybe it's because I can control the initial slide better, therefore am not seeing the snapback in the first place. Hmmm, better be very mindful of that, cheers for the feedback.

 

This makes perfect sense to the way my car handles now. Also with Lickermat's car only having the front brace on at the mo, the 'slight waywardness' is still there ie not quite so predictable. I prefer it being more predictable but I think it is a personal thing (as you have highlighted!)

 

thanks for the write up blue.

i have the rear spoon brace ordered but aint picked it up yet. look as if i`ll have to do it soon.

would it make more sense to fit it before i do my ride drive day which includes an airfield session? or should i leave it so its more unpredictable?

 

no worries, I'm sure Lickermat will add more when his arrives and he fits it.

make more sense to fit it before ride drive day? I have no idea, depends how 'saucy' you're feeling. If you were Nick Graves you wouldn't fit it at all! If you were me you would. I'd say if you were looking to learn more about driving then having this fitted is a good idea as it is more progressive and you do lose some of the skittishness. This may mean it's easier to practice what you learn without being constantly on the edge so to speak. Personal opinion tho, completely.

As Paper Lawyer (Craig?) says above, the oversteer snap was more apparent for Chris type R, so you may get more of a reaction from this on the track, but you will have significantly more warning, as explained by Mr Graves.

Anyway if you've ordered it and are going to fit it then best off learning more with it on I'd reckon. So get it on and get on the ride drive day. And go large.