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euan

Depends on what you mean as new though - as I said above, this issue is one of the reasons why I don't plan to keep the car after the OEM warranty expires.

Fortunately I can afford to take this view at the moment.

Shiskine

A question to those people who have had their bolts greased ...

Did you take your car into the dealer and demand they greased the bolts, or did you take it in claiming the bolts had seized and let them identify the solution?

I mention this only as, non-techy that I am, I understand greasing parts can often serve to attract muck and can therefore cause more problems than it solves. It seems to me the key point is that, given Honda don't grease these parts at the factory, do they not do so as a result of an oversight or is there a good technical reason for not greasing them? I think we need to focus on the seizure problem (seemingly widespread) rather than on the adoption of our "own" solutions.

Nick Graves

Ironically, you want to keep the grease away from the rubber bits, since it will perish them!

I assume Honda took the view that greasing could be avoided, since the bushes and balljoints are wear-prone items, especially on shit roads.

They probably figured they'd all be bolloxed at about the same time, but it hasn't worked out like that.

mikdys

The real question is how often should adjustments be made in service? I take the point that enthusiasts want to check and adjust the car's suspension geometry every so often but, I'll bet, that the vast majority of S2000 users never consider this or would even notice the effect of wrong tyres/poor set-up and this probably makes us a very small voice. I'll also bet this isn't the only marque where road salt corrodes adjustable components and that the motor industry regards this situation as fully acceptable. As an example, I remember years ago when exhaust manifolds and flanges used to have brass nuts fitted by car factories so that exhausts could be replaced more easily in service. Not now though, if it costs even 1 pence more in production and only benefits long term maintenance its not even considered

So I doubt Honda (UK) will do anything about it. I would agree it should be the owner's club that take this up with them though and, if HUK should fail to agree to do anything about the problem, perhaps it would be possible for the owner's club to arrange a discount on the cost of these parts (either through Honda or a factors) to benefit the club members and provide a further reason for non-members to join?

Bassoctopus

Not much response from the S2kuk committee, I'm sure at least one of them has been online today

Lurking Lawyer

If that's aimed at me, I already indicated in my post replying to Neil that I don't think it will ultimately us get anywhere - but for my part, I certainly can't see we have anything to lose by doing so.

But it's Ian who has the contacts at Honda. I didn't go to the Institute visit so didn't meet either of the people who have been mentioned earlier in the thread. I didn't feel I could add anything to the debate in terms of whom we could write to or how it is likely to be received.

Shiskine

I am but a humble committee member ... but I'll pm Budgie now.

(Patience is clearly in short supply in the NE ... . Perhaps I should prefix all my posts with "On behalf of the Committee", in a Wheeltappers stylee)

CiderBoy

I agree, particulary as we already have a link with them.

Bassoctopus

I'm not having a go at anyone, this will quickly be forgotten if we don't push on with it.

I wasn't expecting immediate action, just a confirmation that it will be high on the S2KUK agenda for their next meeting.

(You have to remember that I was a committee member when I first suggested S2kuk tackled it, and I did feck all about it - so don't take the comment as criticism)

Keep up the good work guys