Should the S have traction control?
10-27-2003, 04:20 AM
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No I don't think it should.
It certainly doesn't need it in the dry.
In the wet or cold & slippery conditions, TC only saves you from a heavy right foot and would also enable you to make quicker getaways. It does not give you any protection against going into a corner too quickly.
I think TC tends to encourage a bit more complacency in the driver when in reality they'd be better aware of the grip levels they have without it.
Having said all that, for 500 quid I'd probably have the option, if and only if a) it didn't re-engage whenever the ignition was switched on and b) it didn't have a silly light telling me I'd switched it off.
It certainly doesn't need it in the dry.
In the wet or cold & slippery conditions, TC only saves you from a heavy right foot and would also enable you to make quicker getaways. It does not give you any protection against going into a corner too quickly.
I think TC tends to encourage a bit more complacency in the driver when in reality they'd be better aware of the grip levels they have without it.
Having said all that, for 500 quid I'd probably have the option, if and only if a) it didn't re-engage whenever the ignition was switched on and b) it didn't have a silly light telling me I'd switched it off.
10-27-2003, 05:11 AM
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Traction control wouldn't help when in many of the accident situations people seem to come across in the S2000. They are good for allowing cars to gain traction on slippery surfaces, and would help prevent those situations where someone gives it too much right foot off a roundabout and ends up spinning, but most accidents seem to occur for 2 main reasons:-
Lift-off oversteer, no amount of traction control can help once someone lifts off the throttle mid corner.
Over correction, while the TC system will stop the wheels spinning on accelleration, if the back end moved sideways and the driver over corrected the movement, TC wouldn't be able to do much about it.
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Lift-off oversteer, no amount of traction control can help once someone lifts off the throttle mid corner.
Over correction, while the TC system will stop the wheels spinning on accelleration, if the back end moved sideways and the driver over corrected the movement, TC wouldn't be able to do much about it.
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10-27-2003, 08:34 AM
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Mercedes-Benz/Bosch have been claiming recently that cars fitted with ESP show a 30% reduction in accidents.
Now, I know that 97.4% of statistics are made up on the spot to prove a point, but if true, it would stop a lot of these problems. The reason people get lift-off oversteer is probably as a panic reaction to oversteer induced by too much throttle for the conditions in the first place.
The answer is yes, probably, although for me, no thanks.
Two reasons:
1. It's not that sort of car.
2. The reasons M-B's are unreliable, irritating POS (ref. J. Clarkson, Top Gear, Sunday) is they have too much of this electronic crap all over them.
Now, I know that 97.4% of statistics are made up on the spot to prove a point, but if true, it would stop a lot of these problems. The reason people get lift-off oversteer is probably as a panic reaction to oversteer induced by too much throttle for the conditions in the first place.
The answer is yes, probably, although for me, no thanks.
Two reasons:
1. It's not that sort of car.
2. The reasons M-B's are unreliable, irritating POS (ref. J. Clarkson, Top Gear, Sunday) is they have too much of this electronic crap all over them.
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10-27-2003, 08:51 AM
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I don't think it needs it. It's fine in the dry and in the wet most TC systems that I have experienced only kicked in after the wheels start to slip - ok if its the fronts, but whats the point of that in an S2k?
I don't think it needs it. It's fine in the dry and in the wet most TC systems that I have experienced only kicked in after the wheels start to slip - ok if its the fronts, but whats the point of that in an S2k?
wouldnt use it, would spoil the fun