Seized Suspensions Bolts or Deteriorated Bushes
01-26-2006, 12:49 AM
#13
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Thanks to all those that have already pm'd me with their stories ... 
I hope to draft a letter today that I will post for comment this afternoon. However, I would just like to clarify one or two things, and will refer to a picture that StevenM posted yesterday.
In order not to sound a complete numptie in the letter, I'd just like to confirm the correct terms for the indivual parts in this pic.
Even I can identify the wishbone (
), but, looking at the foremost arm, am I right in saying we are looking at what Honda would regard as three different parts?
1. Wishbone
2. Bush (incl metal sleeve)
3. Bolt
Presumably it's only the wishbones that hold the bushes, or do the drop link arms have bushes too?
Are we saying that in a perfect world (no corrosion etc.), if a bush were to become worn and in need of replacement, the bolt(s) would be undone, the wishbone removed, and the bush assembly "knocked out" to be replaced by a new one? I would imagine this would involve minimal costs in terms of parts, but admittedly a fair amount of labour.
Equally, are we saying that if an owner presented their car to the dealer with the level of corrosion shown in that pic and needed a new bush, the dealer would have to do what StevenM did (viz. saw through the bolt) to remove the wishbone? From that picture, surely the only parts that would need to be replaced are the bush assembly and the bolt. Accepting that there's a significant amount of labour required to strip and reassemble, surely the parts costs (bush and bolt) can't be that massive? I'm trying to relate that pic to Bada's situation and his quote for
I hope to draft a letter today that I will post for comment this afternoon. However, I would just like to clarify one or two things, and will refer to a picture that StevenM posted yesterday.
In order not to sound a complete numptie in the letter, I'd just like to confirm the correct terms for the indivual parts in this pic.
Even I can identify the wishbone (
), but, looking at the foremost arm, am I right in saying we are looking at what Honda would regard as three different parts?1. Wishbone
2. Bush (incl metal sleeve)
3. Bolt
Presumably it's only the wishbones that hold the bushes, or do the drop link arms have bushes too?
Are we saying that in a perfect world (no corrosion etc.), if a bush were to become worn and in need of replacement, the bolt(s) would be undone, the wishbone removed, and the bush assembly "knocked out" to be replaced by a new one? I would imagine this would involve minimal costs in terms of parts, but admittedly a fair amount of labour.
Equally, are we saying that if an owner presented their car to the dealer with the level of corrosion shown in that pic and needed a new bush, the dealer would have to do what StevenM did (viz. saw through the bolt) to remove the wishbone? From that picture, surely the only parts that would need to be replaced are the bush assembly and the bolt. Accepting that there's a significant amount of labour required to strip and reassemble, surely the parts costs (bush and bolt) can't be that massive? I'm trying to relate that pic to Bada's situation and his quote for
01-26-2006, 01:45 AM
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This should help .....
Rear Suspension ...
Front Suspension ...
The drop links (No 8, Rear suspension diagram) connect the wishbones to anti-roll bars. These need to be removed from the wishbones if they are replaced.
Rear Suspension ...
Front Suspension ...
The drop links (No 8, Rear suspension diagram) connect the wishbones to anti-roll bars. These need to be removed from the wishbones if they are replaced.
01-26-2006, 04:00 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by StevenM,Jan 26 2006, 10:45 AM
This should help ...
Does everyone agree? Are we therefore saying that a Honda dealer would need to replace the entire wishbone in order to correct a worn bush?