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12-08-2004, 12:48 AM
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Someone mentioned something the other day about the general condition of roads and road surfaces the other day. So I tried a test.
I've got some rubber soled shoes at the moment and after work last night, on the way to my car, I tried walking on, or across, the road occasionally. Now it could just be the luck of where I was but I tried a few places and I was amazed at how greasy the road felt when compared to walking on the much more grippy pavement. While it wasn't completely unexpected there was one piece of road (not a main road) where I actually felt like I was going to slip over if I stayed on it much longer. I couldn
I've got some rubber soled shoes at the moment and after work last night, on the way to my car, I tried walking on, or across, the road occasionally. Now it could just be the luck of where I was but I tried a few places and I was amazed at how greasy the road felt when compared to walking on the much more grippy pavement. While it wasn't completely unexpected there was one piece of road (not a main road) where I actually felt like I was going to slip over if I stayed on it much longer. I couldn
12-08-2004, 02:15 AM
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That's because concrete has a higher coefficient of friction than asphalt.
This makes it too noisy, which is why most road sections are now asphalt, not concrete.
Concrete surfaces last decades. Look at Germany's Autobahnen.
The top (wearing) course of asphalt roads is called that for a reason.
It should be replaced when the stones become polished or loose. It isn't.
Also, a 4WD car will not defy the laws of physics. With even cheap crap like an Astra having 240bhp there days, I expect that in the next few years, numpties will be putting cars in hedges all over the place.
Perhaps the county councils will just roll the wreckage into the road surface, in order to improve it.
This makes it too noisy, which is why most road sections are now asphalt, not concrete.
Concrete surfaces last decades. Look at Germany's Autobahnen.
The top (wearing) course of asphalt roads is called that for a reason.
It should be replaced when the stones become polished or loose. It isn't.
Also, a 4WD car will not defy the laws of physics. With even cheap crap like an Astra having 240bhp there days, I expect that in the next few years, numpties will be putting cars in hedges all over the place.
Perhaps the county councils will just roll the wreckage into the road surface, in order to improve it.
12-08-2004, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by euan,Dec 8 2004, 08:27 AM
Think of the torque steer you get in a FWD when you try doing that - it shouldn't come as too much of surprise when something odd happens at the rear in a RWD under hard acceleration. 
12-14-2004, 06:15 AM
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I had a bit of fun on the way into work this morning.
On the Leeds ring road (dual, 2 lanes, 40mph limit) there are a number of roundabouts and the last one before it goes into 60mph is a rather large one. I am always wary of this roundabout because the road surface just looks slippy as hell ALL the time. The S2000 generally handles it quite well, but you know she wants to go.
Upon exiting this roundabout this morning the exit road looked even more shiny than usual and sure enough the car was all over the place.
I wasn't going fast at all, I wasn't pushing my luck, but I was 'half' expecting it, so the end result was a bit of fun rather than a nasty mess at rush hour. ( Ok, ok. Once I felt it going I may have purposefully made the slide a bit bigger and longer than it needed to be
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I must make an effort to get to this roundabout outside the usual rush hour times so I can have a bit more of a play.
My point?
Just amazed how it got all slippy at such a low speed. And it was all down to the road surface. I'm pretty sure there's been no spilage there recently. It always looks risky.
On the Leeds ring road (dual, 2 lanes, 40mph limit) there are a number of roundabouts and the last one before it goes into 60mph is a rather large one. I am always wary of this roundabout because the road surface just looks slippy as hell ALL the time. The S2000 generally handles it quite well, but you know she wants to go.
Upon exiting this roundabout this morning the exit road looked even more shiny than usual and sure enough the car was all over the place.
I wasn't going fast at all, I wasn't pushing my luck, but I was 'half' expecting it, so the end result was a bit of fun rather than a nasty mess at rush hour. ( Ok, ok. Once I felt it going I may have purposefully made the slide a bit bigger and longer than it needed to be
)I must make an effort to get to this roundabout outside the usual rush hour times so I can have a bit more of a play.
My point?
Just amazed how it got all slippy at such a low speed. And it was all down to the road surface. I'm pretty sure there's been no spilage there recently. It always looks risky.
12-14-2004, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MrV,Dec 7 2004, 07:51 PM
This time last year I was sh##ing myself everytime I went out in the car ,after a year of driveing you learn what you can and cant do
.... or was Carrie driving
verry sorry Carrie, couldn't stop myself
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