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Old 07-23-2005, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Richy123,Jul 23 2005, 08:16 PM
s1 elise is like 110bhp is'nt it. Only quicker in the corners.
Around 127 I think
Old 07-23-2005, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Richy123,Jul 23 2005, 08:16 PM
s1 elise is like 110bhp is'nt it. Only quicker in the corners.
Yup, there or thereabouts. But they weigh about 800kg IIRC. Like I say, you just have this mental law in your mind that says you can't overtake certain cars cos they're too fast, and it's nice when you break that law.

I absolutely thrashed a Rover 600 ti today, and could not believe by how much of a margin. They're another car I always classed as very quick, but the reality is very different.
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111S i thought had 160 bhp with the celica engine in it.
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Originally Posted by wang_uk,Jul 23 2005, 11:35 PM
111S i thought had 160 bhp with the celica engine in it.
Yeah but not the standard S1.
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Originally Posted by Bada Bing!,Jul 23 2005, 10:07 PM
Yup, there or thereabouts. But they weigh about 800kg IIRC. Like I say, you just have this mental law in your mind that says you can't overtake certain cars cos they're too fast, and it's nice when you break that law.
All comes down to power to weight ratio ...... and gearing.

You also need to consider that adding a 70kg driver to an Elise makes a bigger dent in the ratio compared to adding a 70kg driver to an S2000 (or even a lardy 350Z as another example)

A lot of cars that produce a lot of power are also very heavy
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IMO only this is nonsense. A heavy but powerful car will keep up and even beat an S in the bends. It is all about the driver behind the wheel. All those who say that the S will leave other cars for dead on bends either are dreaming or are exceptional drivers. Just my 2p
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Originally Posted by StevenM,Jul 24 2005, 12:03 AM
All comes down to power to weight ratio ...... and gearing.

You also need to consider that adding a 70kg driver to an Elise makes a bigger dent in the ratio compared to adding a 70kg driver to an S2000 (or even a lardy 350Z as another example)

A lot of cars that produce a lot of power are also very heavy
70 kilos
Maybe I need a lardier car.
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Originally Posted by StevenM,Jul 23 2005, 11:03 PM
All comes down to power to weight ratio ...... and gearing.

You also need to consider that adding a 70kg driver to an Elise makes a bigger dent in the ratio compared to adding a 70kg driver to an S2000 (or even a lardy 350Z as another example)

A lot of cars that produce a lot of power are also very heavy
70kg! I wish I was 70kg!!!!
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Originally Posted by GTFCTIM,Jul 23 2005, 10:52 PM
Yeah but not the standard S1.
Not quite right, the S2 111S has the 158bhp K series engine. It was the top of the range model until Lotus released the 190 bhp Toyota engined 111R and dropped the list price of the 111S by two grand overnight. 111S owners were a bit pieved
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Originally Posted by craig armstrong,Jul 24 2005, 09:16 AM
Not quite right, the S2 111S has the 158bhp K series engine. It was the top of the range model until Lotus released the 190 bhp Toyota engined 111R and dropped the list price of the 111S by two grand overnight. 111S owners were a bit pieved
The question was asked about the standard S1 Elise!

Not the 111S


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