S2000's Are Slow...
#111
Originally Posted by GeeUK,Jan 15 2008, 01:01 AM
Another thing thou, these cars are Roadsters. But I HATE the rag tops. No disrespect, but the cloth roof spoils any car for me, so I would HAVE to have a hard top. I knwo one the main selling points is driving with the roof down, but this would be on very, very rare occassions for me. The looks so much better as a hardtop.
When I first test drove the S2000 it was a convertible and I will admit that top-down driving was fun but I reckon I would get bored with it quite quickly and it wouldn't have a long-term appeal with me. Once the top was up it just was not right for me. I was a bit disappointed. The next test drive was a GT and within 5 minutes of driving the car everything felt perfect. More space, better visibility and not as noisey...just perfect for a daily driver.
The only time my hardtop is coming off will be 3 months before the warranty expires to check that the mechanism still works. For me the S2000 is more than just a convertible.
Originally Posted by Bramblecat,Jan 15 2008, 04:45 AM
I mean at the end of the day if you are caught doing over 100mph on a public road it's an instant ban, points on your driving licence and probably the loading on your insurance premium will mean selling the S anyway.
[QUOTE=Papillon,Jan 15 2008, 05:01 AM]It's easy to say that the S2000 isn't quick, or isn't powerful, but that's in comparison to some serious bits of kit.
#112
A guy I know locally has a 726bhp Evo VIII ......... and is selling it to get a TVR which he can tune. Says he always wanted something which would scare him when he takes it out and the Evo mustn't be doing that properly despite the huge power ...... I'm sure it would scare me lol. So yes, the hunger for more power is never really satisfied - however, on the right road, on the right day, in the right conditions, a great drive in a well balanced car like the S2k is very satisifying.
Gaz
Gaz
#113
Peak too soon? Ask my dad? Hmmm.
Suggestions like getting a RX8 or 350z are strange. Especially if someone is looking for a car that has the capability of being a drop top, is 2.0, has VTEC, is a Honda, etc etc.
Other things I am taking in to consideration are running costs and tuning costs, plus the capability to handle more power, as already stated the S2000 can take more power due to its forged internals, this is why I have ruled such cars out like the RX8.
I can see some people dont take kindly to new members and/or drivers of other cars that might not be Honda's. So thanks for the input so far guys and cya.
Suggestions like getting a RX8 or 350z are strange. Especially if someone is looking for a car that has the capability of being a drop top, is 2.0, has VTEC, is a Honda, etc etc.
Other things I am taking in to consideration are running costs and tuning costs, plus the capability to handle more power, as already stated the S2000 can take more power due to its forged internals, this is why I have ruled such cars out like the RX8.
I can see some people dont take kindly to new members and/or drivers of other cars that might not be Honda's. So thanks for the input so far guys and cya.
#114
Originally Posted by lovegroova,Jan 15 2008, 11:12 PM
The NSX was never officially more than 280 was it?
Parkers says the Supra was 326bhp but was it that high in Japan? R34 Skyline was 276bhp.
Parkers says the Supra was 326bhp but was it that high in Japan? R34 Skyline was 276bhp.
The R32/33/34 Skylines got more and more torque out of the RB26, but never more than 276bhp.
The Supra in JDM spec (diff turbo's) was 276bhp. The Euro spec jumped to 326, but was more of a GT than sports.
The new Lexus LFA is supposed to be over 500+ BHP (4.8 V10) and lapping Nur in 7:24 .. (I've put a link in the car chat section).
Seems Nur laps are then new bhp.
GeeUK - don't worry about the owners here, they are very opinionated and are happy to have a dig. I don't know why, it just seems to be the norm though . But if you "get" the car and enjoy it. Get one.
I know you say you'll add FI, but I will warn you, it's not cheap. Not by a long shot. Just SC'ing mine is the wrong side of
#115
Originally Posted by lovegroova,Jan 15 2008, 11:40 PM
Don't forget that Honda are party to the 280bhp 'agreement' of the Japanese manufacturers. 280bhp is pretty easily achieved (if you are Honda) from a relatively small engine with no need for 'impure' forced induction.
If you think about it, for a road car anything much over 300bhp is pretty pointless anyway (other than perhaps on an autobahn)
If you think about it, for a road car anything much over 300bhp is pretty pointless anyway (other than perhaps on an autobahn)
btw forget about the Autobahn. Too crowded or 130km richtsgeswindigheit
#117
Wasn't it the case with the gentlemens agreement, that alot of the claimed 280bhp figures where false and quite a few cars produced more power in reality?
Couldn't disagree more myself, it looks sleeker and nicer with the soft top, and I can't imagine top down in the sunshine ever getting old. I took the hard top off mine shortly after buying it, and it sounds exactly the same, apart from the sound of rain drops on the roof. I don't think it looks too great compared to the mugen hard top or the soft top.
I totally agree with you, the S2000 looks awful with the soft-top up. It looks great with the roof down and even better with the hardtop on.
#119
Originally Posted by Bibbs,Jan 16 2008, 02:12 AM
Matt .. I'll have to pop over and see what mine looks like with a roof
Though I'm not sure if you need to change anything to be able to fit it? I've got some black plastic bits that curve through 90 degrees with brushes on them that apparently were on the car before it was changed to some different bits accommodate the hard top. Did you like that description there? I am to car parts what Bob fossil is to zoo animals.
#120
MIP - there were many cars which were way over the 280 but due to the agreement they just said 280.
As per my last couple of posts, Skyline's and Supra's did have more than quoted.
As per my last couple of posts, Skyline's and Supra's did have more than quoted.