RedUn

Hi,

What pads are people running for track / fast road use?

I'm currently on DS2500's all round which i've found to be very good apart from killing discs and destroying my wheels.

Been doing a lot of reading on the Carbotechs mostly in the states though, anyone over here tried them?

I wouldn't mind some Pagids but they don't make them for the rear?

Any input appreciated.

Thanks
Rick

MUG3N

Rick I personally believe discs and pads need to be matched, perhaps why the DS2500 were eating your discs. I would opt for the Dixcel setup if you are not changing the disc size, failing that what about endless pads?

mugen888

I have some track day pads for sale Endless

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=765124

RedUn

I am/was running Nitrac (cryo'd) discs, it wasn't eating them hardness wise I meant killing as in warping them, maybe I should of explained my self better

I do tend to agree that discs and pads should be matched as well.

I am going to be running 2 piece discs all round but probably not the same make either which I guess rules out the dixcels?

LTB

For that reason I've just ordered a set of DS2500 all round plus a full set of Stoptech discs.

I'll post up here once they are fitted with some feedback.

The Loon

For road or track use, or both?

LTB

Mainly fast road, but this year I hope to do some track too, so with that in mind basically.

Had the DS2500 on stock discs for well over a year and no issues with warping, although they eats discs for fun, but on track it will be a different matter hence the Stoptechs.

RedUn

That sounds like a good setup to me

On a side note what are peoples opinions in running different pads front to rear? I.E. more aggressive on the front?

m1bjr

I have always used DS2500 all around in the Honda.
Not had any bad corrosion issues, and original 33k mile rotors still.
This is after a few airfield days and Coombe recently.
And I dont hang about, seriously.

I think too many people place too much emphesis on late and hard braking at track days.
Its not a race, but I fully understand the competative streak as I have one too.

However, if you brake a 'little' earlier it makes a massive difference to lifespan of all parts.
And the fractions of seconds extra in the brake zone hardly matter at all do they?
Besides the later and harder you brake, the less chance you have of hitting the entry at the right speed and therefore taking the correct line.
Slow down a bit and see how much easier it is when you are not rushing.
My money is on most people being a little quicker round a circuit because of it too.

What I'm saying is drive to the limit of your hardware rather than seeking very expensive 'brake nirvana' as so many do.
If you are racing then there is a point. But for a track day?

Anyhow- hardware...
I have Carbotech XP10 on the R26 and they are simply excellent.
Whilst the R26.Rs were cooking and cracking at Rockingham, the XP10 on cheap SOLID Brembo rotors worked all day without issue.

They are soft on the HC discs and last very well.
In fact I find they are lasting twice as long as Ds2500, but are nearly twice the cost

If I were keeping the Honda, it would wear 2pc rotors F&R with XP10 front and rear for road/track.
The downside with Carbotech XP10/12 is noise.
As a street car they squeal a lot as they like to be hot.
BUT - the COLD braking performance is way better than oem pads as they are designed for racing.
The initial bite is immense when below freezing, that is a neat thing on a road car if you can hack the sqealing.

HTH
Steve

RedUn

Thanks for the input Steve, informative as ever

The XP10's all round sound good to me then, I don't mind the squeeling.

I was thinking whether to run 8's on the rear to try and keep things cooler? Or is that a waste of time? Brake bias issues?

Other option is to stick to what I know (DS2500's) or go DS3000's?