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Old 03-17-2013, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Montag
It's good to see that you're taking your time and being thorough Dan.

If you're happy with everything else, will you be going back and trying to seal the deal minus £800 or so?
Thank you, I want to make sure I get the right one. My intention is to see what she will take off because its a great car.


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Hi guys,

I've been to see a car this morning and it is everything that I want in an S2K but one thing bugs me.

It's on 88k and clutch pedal is rather high. Is it a complicated job to replace? I.e. it's not an engine out job or anything like that? I appreciate it depends where you are and suh but how much do you think for a new clutch assembly fitted?

Thanks.
Dan
Might as well be an engine out job! It's a bitch to do. Took us 8 hours. Easier if you take the exhaust manifold off during the process which we did. One of the bolts on the bell housing is a swine to get to. You have to uncouple some of the engine mounts if I recall and swing the engine down forwards. All bloody tight to get to. End result was worth it though as the gearshift is amazing. Mine had coincidentally done 88k too. The gearshift dragged sometimes before the clutch was changed. It's night and day better to how it was before. I just wish I'd done the clutch immediately rather than putting up with it for one year with the crap change. One of the S2000's key attributes is its gorgeous gearshift and you only realise this once you change the clutch.

The plates on my old clutch were worn down to the rivets and all the springs were knackered (had an annoying buzz/vibration resonance around 3k rpm if I recall).

On a car with 88k if the clutch hasn't been done you need to factor this in or walk away. Budget on £800 I reckon by a good specialist to do the job.
The gearshift was mega tight on this one, whole drivetrain felt solid and there were no issues whatsoever with any of it, no slipping or rough engagement etc, just that the pedal was high. I do need to think about replacement clutch though, it'll need it sooner or later.
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Did the clutch pedal feel light? Find out if its had one anyway as at 88k if hasn't, it will be worth doing (as the original will be well on its way).

The pedal on an S2k that's recently had a clutch will be feather light
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The car is on the original clutch and I appreciate its going to need replacing sooner rather than later but like I say it felt mega tight. The clutch felt perfect in every way and engagement was brilliant, apart from the high bite. But it was light enough :-)
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I wouldn't worry then. A tell tale sign that the clutch is getting worn is shifting from 2nd just before the limiter into 3rd, if its crunchy on occasions it's a sign of clutch wear. I wouldn't worry though if it drives well. My clutch had done 91k before the box came out and although I changed it for a new one seeing as the box was out anyway there was nothing wrong with the original. I suppose that'll all depend how the car has been driven as well though.
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Originally Posted by E4RTH WORM JIM
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You can adjust the engagement point with a 10mm wrench.
Look behind the pedal and there is a but you can loosen and turn the rod to make it engage higher or lower.
You're an absolute legend! I shoved my big head down in the footwell but couldn't see any adjuster so I've been struggling with clutch for ages!

I've just adjusted mine now. Allot better! I can actually cope with my CC clutch now

P:s it's a 12mm nut
Brilliant, didn't know this. Just had my clutch fluid replaced and bled as part of my service, also had the cluch delay valve removed. Clutch pedal is much smoother and lighter, but bite point is still fairly high.

Is it obvious which way to turn the nut to lower the biting point?
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Think mine bites about an inch (if that, maybe a little less) from the top.

I actually prefer the high bit point, shifting up through the gears is sweet as you shift then just release the pedal rather than letting it up slowly.
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That's how this is :-)
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Everyone knows that you can't adjust the bite point of a hydraulic clutch, right?

That adjustment on the pedal is for the dead zone, nothing more. Only used if you fit a new clutch!
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Thanks guys for help on this.

Car is a '53' plate, glass rear screen, alarm / immobiliser, cd / mp3, AC, hardtop in Monte Carlo blue.

Anything I need to bare in mind with this particular year / model etc?

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I think you may be disappointed if you're hoping she drops £800 off because of the high biting point. I was told to be aware of the high bite and the fact it may be heavy prior to shopping around for my S2000. If someone asked me to knock 800 dollar off the asking price because of that then I would quite frankly tell 'em to f*ck off.

Just out of curiosity did you check the oil at all? Pre-facelift S2000 (< '04) tend to slurp oil like theres no tomorrow, the unwary will let it run low and potentially ruin the engine. Can happen as quickly as running through two tanks of fuel and as a rough rule it can/will burn up to 100ml per 100mile.
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Heavy and high........A perfect description of a normal S2000 clutch pedal, don't go spending £800 - £1000 just for the fun of it and Don't go asking for £800 off because of it, you'll just get laughed out the door.
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I don't plan in doing that. I would like some money off but purely in a budgeting and let's-see-how-much-I-can-get-off type ways. I like the car a lot, just want to sort a few things out regarding HPI, insurance, money etc.


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