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Old 02-10-2024, 08:23 AM
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What’s the difference with a USDM box? Ratios?
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What’s the difference with a USDM box? Ratios?
Yep, only subtle. If I remember correctly, 4% shorter 1st-4th.2% longer 5th and 6th.
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I drop it out on jack stands in my garage buddy. Got a nak now. Haha..
is the usdm box same our facelift boxes?

When my f20 needs rebuild. I give bourne a call..
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Originally Posted by Jayc87
I drop it out on jack stands in my garage buddy. Got a nak now. Haha..
is the usdm box same our facelift boxes?

When my f20 needs rebuild. I give bourne a call..
Interesting, can you get the car high enough?!

No, the AP2 (2.2L engine) has different ratios.
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Yes i can.. i drop whole subframe as have car skates and role it out..
ah yh the f22. I hear its longer 5th and 6th slighly..
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Yes i can.. i drop whole subframe as have car skates and role it out..
ah yh the f22. I hear its longer 5th and 6th slighly..
I probably don't have enough length in the garage to roll the car far enough for that, I don't think (and the driveway outside the garage is steep!). So I think I'll be lifting the engine upwards (esp as I have to remove the gearbox anyway) and then swing it sideways over the front wing on to a pallet for transport.

Yeh, ratios are as per a couple of posts up.
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Engine removed, and dropped off at HPE Automotive today (who will work with Clockwise Motion to do the build). I also found a BBK that will fit my wheels (see my other thread).

Removing it was a challenge, having never done it before. The hardest thing was the snake's wedding of loom, clips and hoses on the passenger side underneath the intake manifold!






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Should have unplugged at ecu and thread the whole lot through

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Awesome, looks like it's coming along well!
Compression is getting a little low on mine now, so I've been gradually gathering parts for a rebuild/upgrade. I tried emailing clockwise motion about getting the block bored and honed, but didn't get a reply unfortunately - if anyone has any advice on how to get in contact with them, I'd be grateful for it.
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I've spoken to with Ian at Clockwise Motion. He doesn't do road engines anymore, as the insurance wasn't worth it for the number he does, apparently. He focuses on race engines.

​​​​However, Dan at HPE Automotive is just across the way from Clockwise Motion and he's taken on the build, but uses Clockwise for the machining. Dan's main business is building K20s and converting Lotus Elises etc to use them.

Ian also taught Dan to rebuild engines, apparently. And Dan is quite particular with the parts he'll build an engine with, so I've developed a good confidence in him. But the proof will be in the pudding! Fingers crossed...
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