Mixing tyres
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BTW, Karen reckons Proxes are crap in the ice on the Civic, actually worse than the OEM jp Dunlops!
I went CTR - EVO - S2k so have had a good insight into tyres and weather and how they all perform, hence my praise of the T1r's.
Also we all have a different view point of what is good and bad in a tyre esp. in the slippy ice time of year. What is sure footed to some is lethal to others depending on your driving style and expectations.
If the Civic you mention is the CTR then that is more lethal than the S in anything other than dry as its so easy to spin a wheel no matter what
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I just fitted Toyo Proxes T1-Rs all round - the first time I've not used the OEM Bridgestones - and they seem fine.
The decision to switch was made easier by the fact that this time I needed to replace all four corners, but it occurred to me I'll probably trash the rears first and will then be in something of a quandry if I want to switch back to the OEM tyres as this will inevitably mean a period of mixed brands ...
However, whilst I can see that mixing brands isn't ideal, I can't see that it's dangerous, provided you're careful.
The decision to switch was made easier by the fact that this time I needed to replace all four corners, but it occurred to me I'll probably trash the rears first and will then be in something of a quandry if I want to switch back to the OEM tyres as this will inevitably mean a period of mixed brands ...
However, whilst I can see that mixing brands isn't ideal, I can't see that it's dangerous, provided you're careful.
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Personally and from very recent experience i would say no... don't do it.
The effects that could follow are potentially very dangerous at this time of year, i'm no expert but if you look at the recent thread i've linked to it will explain what i mean:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...pic=334495&hl=
The effects that could follow are potentially very dangerous at this time of year, i'm no expert but if you look at the recent thread i've linked to it will explain what i mean:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...pic=334495&hl=
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Originally Posted by Shiskine,Nov 30 2005, 10:17 AM
I just fitted Toyo Proxes T1-Rs all round - the first time I've not used the OEM Bridgestones - and they seem fine.
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I have 04 with the larger 17" boots, and my experince with bridgestones are pretty much the same as the views reflected on here. I dont think they suite the S not unless you live in a warm climate all year round.
When "Bridgers" wear they are pretty awful, but more importantly they seem to suffer from a need to have alot of heat in them beofre they really work and in the winter this means potentailly they may never reach operating temperature.
Recently have seen alot of posting about about low speed slides (and reading between the lines, cold tyre slides).
I had long discussions with various tyre specialists, on a different tyre for the S, when I recently needed to repalce the worn "Bridgers" I had on the car. I was concerned with the "well S's need a special Bridgstone the MZ Sir" type of conversation. Hence my hesitatation about changing the tyre type.
But after prolonged conversations, the advice I was given can be sumarised as thus, you need a tyre with a stiff side wall, and a softer compound, the choices to suite were Goodyear F1's, ot Toyo Proxies in reputable department.
Basically to cut a long story short I bought Goodyears, which are softer (read dont last as long), but do not seem to need the higher operating temp the Bridgers need.
They give very good levels of grip in the cold, and especially seem to avoid the low speed cold tyre slides you get with S on Bridgers, I was very hesitant about writing this but after 3000 miles on Goodyears without incident, Im convinced that Bridgestones are not a good choice in winter in the UK.
When "Bridgers" wear they are pretty awful, but more importantly they seem to suffer from a need to have alot of heat in them beofre they really work and in the winter this means potentailly they may never reach operating temperature.
Recently have seen alot of posting about about low speed slides (and reading between the lines, cold tyre slides).
I had long discussions with various tyre specialists, on a different tyre for the S, when I recently needed to repalce the worn "Bridgers" I had on the car. I was concerned with the "well S's need a special Bridgstone the MZ Sir" type of conversation. Hence my hesitatation about changing the tyre type.
But after prolonged conversations, the advice I was given can be sumarised as thus, you need a tyre with a stiff side wall, and a softer compound, the choices to suite were Goodyear F1's, ot Toyo Proxies in reputable department.
Basically to cut a long story short I bought Goodyears, which are softer (read dont last as long), but do not seem to need the higher operating temp the Bridgers need.
They give very good levels of grip in the cold, and especially seem to avoid the low speed cold tyre slides you get with S on Bridgers, I was very hesitant about writing this but after 3000 miles on Goodyears without incident, Im convinced that Bridgestones are not a good choice in winter in the UK.
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Originally Posted by AquilaEagle,Nov 30 2005, 08:40 PM
I;d never mix, just my personal preference
#18
Originally Posted by lovegroova,Nov 30 2005, 02:38 PM
It seems strange to me that people will willingly spend money on exhausts, snorkels and other stuff, yet skimp on the tyres which are the only thing keeping their car on the road.
I went through several sets of S03s on my FTO, and thought they were excellent wet and dry, so it suprises me to hear so many people here saying the SO2s aren't good in the wet. I had one set of Toyo T1Ss for about a month and absolutely hated them - horrible squidgly sidewalls and not nearly as much grip as the Bridgestones. The T1Rs are meant to have more grip, but are equally badly made. I wouldn't have Toyos again if they were free.
Better to have matching. On my FTO I'd swap the front and rear tyres around every 4 months or so to keep the wear rates about the same, and so ending up buying 4 new all at once. I suppose I can't do that on the S2K
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Originally Posted by Dembo,Nov 30 2005, 09:10 PM
I went through several sets of S03s on my FTO, and thought they were excellent wet and dry, so it suprises me to hear so many people here saying the SO2s aren't good in the wet.
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Originally Posted by KMB,Nov 30 2005, 07:23 AM
I was just replacing with the same SO2's with some new ones, phenomemal difference
I can remember when I replaced the front tyres - at about 2mm, same brand S02s to S02s, the difference in how the car felt was incredible.
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Jerry