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Old 01-29-2011, 10:37 AM
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If it was plugs, it would have to be a complete misfire on one cylinder to lose that much power. Filter would have to have a hedgehog stuck in it

Like I say, I wouldn't go spending money on a problem until you've done some basics. Unless they need doing anyway...

As long as the AFR was right, and it's not pulling *massive* timing (ask Romain to look at your AEM - but i'm sure he will have) I think it could be mechanical or setup as AJ says.
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Originally Posted by martin j,Jan 29 2011, 07:36 PM
A mates 350Z lost a similar amount of power betweens dyno runs, we found that oil from the K&N was fouling a sensor-air flow or the like- back to standard and the ponies came back to the corral, could it be anything like this? clutching at straws sorry.
Quite common on MAF based cars, can happen on MAP based cars too but less likely as the sensor isn't in the air path like a MAF.

If the MAP is screwed you should be able to see the load voltage doing funny things on the AEM, but it would also show on the AFR reading...
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Originally Posted by MB,Jan 29 2011, 11:37 AM
If it was plugs, it would have to be a complete misfire on one cylinder to lose that much power. Filter would have to have a hedgehog stuck in it

Like I say, I wouldn't go spending money on a problem until you've done some basics. Unless they need doing anyway...

As long as the AFR was right, and it's not pulling *massive* timing (ask Romain to look at your AEM - but i'm sure he will have) I think it could be mechanical or setup as AJ says.
Yes, good call on the basics, thats the plan anyway.

The AFR was good (12/12.5) and Ro did take a look at the AEM with nothing being obvious.

Im thinking it could be to do with the brakes........
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Tyre pressures? Same straws different suggestion.
Old 01-29-2011, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by martin j,Jan 29 2011, 11:55 AM
Tyre pressures? Same straws different suggestion.
Tyres were at 30PSI, not different enough to warrent such a loss though.
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Originally Posted by Suits,Jan 29 2011, 08:43 PM
Yes, good call on the basics, thats the plan anyway.

The AFR was good (12/12.5) and Ro did take a look at the AEM with nothing being obvious.

Im thinking it could be to do with the brakes........
Probably a red herring, but an AFR of this value is far too low an N/A S, should be running in the low 13's, 13.1 seems a sweet spot. Generally most N/A cars should be run in the range of 12.7 to 13.2AFR, the S is no exception.
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Yep it's on the rich / safe side, but not sure if the AFR has always been the same between the runs where it's reportedly lost power?
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Originally Posted by Irvatron,Jan 29 2011, 12:46 PM
Probably a red herring, but an AFR of this value is far too low an N/A S, should be running in the low 13's, 13.1 seems a sweet spot. Generally most N/A cars should be run in the range of 12.7 to 13.2AFR, the S is no exception.
It may well have been a touch higher to be honest, at the time I wasn't paying that much attention to it.

I just gave it a quick glance to make sure it wasn't anything critical.

This is current AFR, (It's the lighter blue plot), like you say, it's nearer 13.

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Originally Posted by MB,Jan 29 2011, 12:53 PM
Yep it's on the rich / safe side, but not sure if the AFR has always been the same between the runs where it's reportedly lost power?
It should have stayed the same, yes, it's not been adjusted between the runs .
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Originally Posted by Suits,Jan 29 2011, 12:11 PM
Tyres were at 30PSI, not different enough to warrent such a loss though.
I remember reading somewhere they up the tyre pressure to run a dyno, can't remember why or to what pressure, I know nothing about dynos, this just stuck in my head.


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