Installed my STB
08-07-2007, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark,Aug 7 2007, 05:08 PM
So what compliment of braces do you have, Dembo?
Front top and bottom, rear top and the lower X brace?
Not including the master cylinder one
Front top and bottom, rear top and the lower X brace?
Not including the master cylinder one
08-07-2007, 08:33 AM
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The lower X-brace & rear lower are needed to gild the lily.
But it's a reasonable question as to why there isn't an upper; The Civic VTi has one.
Guess Honda figured they's already put enough meat into the H-bone chassis.
Or else it went the same way as the mystical cold air intake.
But it's a reasonable question as to why there isn't an upper; The Civic VTi has one.
Guess Honda figured they's already put enough meat into the H-bone chassis.
Or else it went the same way as the mystical cold air intake.
08-07-2007, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dembo,Aug 7 2007, 05:31 PM
Complimenting the standard chassis, I have front upper and lower Whiteline, and rear upper and lower Cusco. Generally the lower ones are good, the upper ones just add weight.
08-07-2007, 10:29 AM
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I was talking to Chris F about this a while ago, and he reckoned anti-roll bars were the way to go to improve handling, before going with braces........however, everyone seem to go for braces...
Thoughts? Is there a massive price difference?
Thoughts? Is there a massive price difference?
08-07-2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ukphil78,Aug 7 2007, 10:29 AM
I was talking to Chris F about this a while ago, and he reckoned anti-roll bars were the way to go to improve handling, before going with braces........however, everyone seem to go for braces...
Thoughts? Is there a massive price difference?
Thoughts? Is there a massive price difference?
ARBs are certainly more difficult to fit than an Upper STB but for 60 quid I would say it was a decent investment.
08-07-2007, 12:15 PM
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I fitted the three accessible ones (left the rear upper as is...OEM part only), and noticed a substantial difference.
ARB's would probably be a useful next step, but depends what you're after...and they'll be more
ARB's would probably be a useful next step, but depends what you're after...and they'll be more
08-07-2007, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ukphil78,Aug 7 2007, 06:29 PM
I was talking to Chris F about this a while ago, and he reckoned anti-roll bars were the way to go to improve handling, before going with braces........however, everyone seem to go for braces...
Thoughts? Is there a massive price difference?
Thoughts? Is there a massive price difference?
Thicker ARBs redude the independence of the suspension & introduce unpleasant 'waddle' on bad surfaces. Also, with even less roll, there is less indication of breakaway. So you will change its characteristics.
If you change one end & not the other, you'll change the under/oversteer balance of the car; something Honda was buggering about with up to the last minute. Many felt they'd got the rear a bit too stiff, originally. They backed them off with the 17" wheels, so there IS a case for putting 'em back on a later car.
In other words, ARBs are probably the next thing after braces, which bring the best out of what's already there. And I think the car is just on the edge of acceptable ride comfort, as it is.
But once you start buggering with ARBs (and dampers) you really need to know what you're doing.
Indeed, get Chris Franklin to explain it to you, before spending your money!