Elijah

Good news - great to hear first-hand that they're treating it seriously. We watch and wait.....

Bundle of Mayhem

Might have been positive for you, you didn't leave in a sh1tty brown 1.4 Civic

I'll echo what Pete has said with regards to the meeting. It was positive and I feel more positive that HUK are actually doing something and whilst my previous dealer experience hasn't been great, they are listening to us and I believe that this matter will get resolved.

I hope the General Manager of my dealers is in next week because I have just got the best demo car in the world ever and will be driving it behind Mr CJ in the brown Civic when I go to collect my S

Have I told you how much I love Audi's

LadyB

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I hope the General Manager of my dealers is in next week because I have just got the best demo car in the world ever and will be driving it behind Mr CJ in the brown Civic when I go to collect my S

Have I told you how much I love Audi's
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You jammy cow, so you did get it then? Send pics!

Bundle of Mayhem

What can I say I have ordered a lot of Audis in the past month and the FD has just agreed that I can put it on the company insurance.

God I love my job!

Kiteland

it was bronze

Bundle of Mayhem

Bronze!!!! I've checked under the bonnet and there is an engine in there

Actually it's a nice car, just have to remember the pick up isn't as quick as the S and now I've moved the steering wheel, I can actually see what speed I'm doing

LadyB

Played the adjust the steering wheel in the golf tonight too ......

98RON

Still really want a late car and am, as such, still puzzling over (and frustrated with) all of this! Hence some further musings as follows.....

Interesting that all but one of the above cars are 09 registered with the earliest engine no being 1080571 - I wonder if there is a certain engine number cut-off before which MY08 (if not MY09) engines do NOT have the dreaded issues??

Not unreasonably assuming that 80-90% of MY08/09 UK cars are so far unaffected and many at >30K miles too...... I wonder why some engines fail but most don't?? Surely whatever offending parts are involved were fitted to all MY08/09 engines??

Is there a typical number of miles at which a MY08/09 engine will fail?? Like if an engine's going to fail, it will have either done so by 15K miles and, if it hasn't by then, it will be fine??

Has anyone looked at VINs as well as engine numbers to try and ascertain if the engine failures are cars made at one Honda facility/plant or another or evenly across both??

Does anyone here know exactly when the Rev5 (5 spoke wheels as standard) became available here in the UK?? I'm guessing Spring 2008, but am not at all sure.

:-/

Mike

arsie

@98RON: Mike, I read a lot of myself in your post, you are a data/analytical sort of guy. But if you read the recent postings above, especially Kiteland's, you must see that Honda are now clearly on the case *and* in the best postition to analyze the issues. This transparency hasn't always been the case. So mate I would watch and wait. Your urge to analyze is perfectly normal and understandable but who has all the data, is Honda. They are on it. But it might take a while like all forensics. Patience (= "do as I say not as I do"!)

Elijah

Agree - patience is still needed unfortunately.

There should be logic to this, but not enough information just yet to find the answer.
There are so many factors which could be at work here, not least that suppliers/processes could have changed - so in theory the parts are the same, but maybe not. Even if there were a supplier change, it would then depend on how good the FIFO was (first-in-first-out) for the parts, and hence whether there's a randomness to the failures, or a clear cutover.
On top of that, someone told me that they number the engine when they're put in - but I'm really not convinced on that one, as being a Japanese manufacturer I'd credit them with some form of incremental identification, and usually good FIFO control too...

We watch and wait still....