Laserlady

I'd second this viewpoint Ian, you have said you have a good relationship with Honda and at the end of the day you are the only one with those contacts, therefore you are the best spokesman. I don't think it matters that you can't see the process through so long as you get the ball rolling. Then you can inform everyone you have passed it onto your deputy at the correct time - which is hopefully someone who volunteers - such as Mayhem.

This has reminded me I've forgotten to renew.. to be sorted ASAP ! LOL!

m1bjr

If you have protected comprehensive insurance, I would just park my 09 on the nearest beach, and forget about the incoming tide.

Then buy a nice, well maintained older one.

Seriously.

Bundle of Mayhem

Hmmm the tide was high last night in Cleethorpes, might not be a bad idea

GREGSTERWIZ

That all depends really

With some of the latest cars having crankshaft thrust washers replaced I wonder if this will solve the problem, hopefully it will

However, you have to wonder whether it has been the washers themselves at fault or if the washers have been wearing as a result of something else

From memory (and a hazy one at that) crankshaft thrustwashers are (or were) made of softer material than the crank itself, so they will wear faster; ie if something else isn't aligned properly this could be the result of and not the cause of a failure

The only people with the answers will be the Honda engineers who have investigated the issue at Honda HQ

Longpig

As one of the more unfortunates (09 model done 12k miles and now on its third engine) I for one would be very interested to have HUK acknowledge an issue here and would happily share my experiences. Had a service at the franchise a few weeks ago and discussed the 'noise' currently made by the engine. Their view was that this engine still sounds OK (its done 6k miles). I am a little more sceptical. I reckon this one is on its way too. I have about a year left on the warranty so if it goes .. I want to be sure it goes soon. By the way, I understand that the two engines previously removed from my car are still in boxes at the rear of teh franchise. Its been said before - I suspect that HUK know what the issue is, thats why they havent called for the engines back.

Kiteland

Longpig - wht dont you drop Steve.Dyer (firstname.secondname@honda-eu.com) at HUK an email and ask him to comment? May also be worth CCing in Matt.Gibson (Steve's Boss) It may jog Steve's memory that the next time an 09 owner contacts him it isn't the first time he has heard of this issue.

Putting aside the S2KUK contacting HUK question - concerned 09 owners may actually get a better reponse if they went to HUK on their own but shared via PM or private email the HUK reponse. I would be happy to coordinate email lists?

Just a thought......

dreamkev

This is depressing!

Kiteland

Shouldn't be - cars will get sorted.

GREGSTERWIZ

Just to keep this thread alive and hopefully get some assistance from S2KUK, a quick summary of late model forum members cars affected to my knowledge are;

Gaspode F20C2 1090153 failed at 8k

Bokkie (on 3rd engine) F20C2 1080571 failed at 10k, F20C2 01009009 failed at 10k

S2kstar (on 3rd engine) F20C2 1080786 mileage unknown, F20C2 0109067 mileage unknown

Elijah (on 3rd engine) F20C2 1080681 failed at 9k, F20C2 0108020 failed at 22k

Longpig (on 3rd engine) F20C2 1080828 failed at 7k, F20C2 0109052 failed at 9k

Neil engine number unknown failed at 19k

Kiteland (crankshaft thrust washers replaced)



Another car is currently at Southport Honda having an engine replacement (posted by S2knut), failed at 19k

Another car was at Kiteland's dealer having an engine replacement while his was there, failed at 10k

I have spoken to Bristol Honda who confirmed they have performed engine replacements on 5 cars

Mileage quoted is on the engine and not on the car


P1; car being investigated

Gregsterwiz; car being investigated



Please feel free to add to the list if you know of any others

AquilaEagle

nice work GREG... Can we get VIN numbers and mileage too please