lower

I'm not trying to pick an arguement at all. But the thrust washers are there to take the axial loads on the crank, primarily from the clutch release bearing. The loads are are lot smaller than the big end or main bearings and are more variable, but ultimately their sole purpose is to take the axial loads on the crank.

If there is an issue with the thrust washers wearing prematurely, as i said earlier in the thread, its likely that the thrust washers are defective in some way or there is a machining issue with the block or crank that means that they are taking more load than they should.

GREGSTERWIZ

Funny that, with the second part of your post (I'll try not to make a habit of it )

Block or crank.

Kiteland

Dont blame you - its a real shame

My wife was considering a CRV - not any more

GREGSTERWIZ

Warranty is not worth a carrot if replacement engines are defective and there are a few people who have experienced that

If this is not sorted soon (read as imminently) I have a plan

It will not be pretty but I will make my point and it will be difficult (impossible) for Honda to ignore

As far as I am concerned they have had enough time to sort this

PS Anyone waiting for the diagnosis of Bokkie's car may be disappointed. It may be an altogether different issue. eggs/ one basket= daft

jsh

You need any help count me in .

Loofah

Reading above... Honda UK are focusing their energies on "b" and not "a" where....

a/ Rattling issue
b/ Newly discovered metal on metal noise issue


As "a" has been a concern for 2+ years with a number of owners affected - shouldn't this be their priority?
or has the newly discovered "b" Top Trumped "a".
and if so - Why?


what is HUK's clear statement on "a" ?

Or is Bundle of Mayhem and everyone else up shit creek?

Kiteland

Not completely but I suspect a group of us will be outlaying some funds for a party action against HUK.

GREGSTERWIZ

Simple answer is Bokkie ia a customer who has experienced a number of problems with her car so HUK are now paying attention TO HER, and deservedly so

Does that help anyone else ? Not necessarily. It sounds like it may be a different issue.

Honda's stance concerning the rattle, to my knowledge, has not changed. If the crank is borderline tolerance fit new thrust washers. This "fix" does not work according to owners who have reported back on the forum. The fact that HUK recommend this is a big clue as to what is actually wrong with the engines though.

If you have "the noise" you will likely be told "it is a characteristic of the vehicle". Which is laughable in my opinion. I have listened to some of the affected cars and it is obvious something is wrong.

So, NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

Legal action is fine BUT owners will most likely have to employ a respected and well known engineer diagnose the issue. A back street garage will not suffice and neither will opinions. Lawyers deal with facts, not speculation. And experts cost money, legal or otherwise.
All of this takes time

Maybe a more direct approach is needed

P 1

My thoughts exactly.

Bokkie's car has already had a considerable amount of work carried out to various components and is now exibiting a new and different noise.

There have been so many changes to Bokkie's car since manufacture that this will hamper Honda's ability to diagnose the root cause of problem.

eSeM

Try spamming the press and see if you can get anyone to take an interest ...... 'Top Gear Top Car is a POS'

Honda might start to take a bit of notice.