How long before the next fuel protests?
05-15-2004, 05:02 AM
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Originally posted by euan
burn less fossil fuel where possible (unlike in the States) - higher tax on fuel achieves this, with correspondingly lower taxation elsewhere.
burn less fossil fuel where possible (unlike in the States) - higher tax on fuel achieves this, with correspondingly lower taxation elsewhere.
05-15-2004, 05:20 AM
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People have to buy petrol. For many there is no alternative to using a vehicle.
High fuel costs don't act as a disincentive IMO, they just mean that people will economise in other areas such as:
not maintaining their car
no MOT
no VED
no insurance
etc
So in fact, high fuel costs may be an indirect contributor to road safety.
That's why it would be far better to introduce a scheme (that showed what percentage you were paying) where tax was included in the price of the petrol.
The more you use the roads - the more you pay.
Sounds democratic to me.
All governments have it the wrong way round. They believe disincentives, not incentives will change behaviour.
So they try to force us out of our warm, safe, reliable, versatile and fun motors into cold, uncomfortable, dangerous public transport.
How about making the public transport so cheap, safe and attractive that you would be a mug to use your car?
High fuel costs don't act as a disincentive IMO, they just mean that people will economise in other areas such as:
not maintaining their car
no MOT
no VED
no insurance
etc
So in fact, high fuel costs may be an indirect contributor to road safety.
That's why it would be far better to introduce a scheme (that showed what percentage you were paying) where tax was included in the price of the petrol.
The more you use the roads - the more you pay.
Sounds democratic to me.
All governments have it the wrong way round. They believe disincentives, not incentives will change behaviour.
So they try to force us out of our warm, safe, reliable, versatile and fun motors into cold, uncomfortable, dangerous public transport.
How about making the public transport so cheap, safe and attractive that you would be a mug to use your car?
05-15-2004, 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by euan
MT was right though - if the fuel duty doesn't come from petrol, the tax will have to come from somewhere else if we want to maintain spending on healthcare, education, charging around in the desert etc.
Although not a Green, I'd rather burn less fossil fuel where possible (unlike in the States) - higher tax on fuel achieves this, with correspondingly lower taxation elsewhere.
MT was right though - if the fuel duty doesn't come from petrol, the tax will have to come from somewhere else if we want to maintain spending on healthcare, education, charging around in the desert etc.
Although not a Green, I'd rather burn less fossil fuel where possible (unlike in the States) - higher tax on fuel achieves this, with correspondingly lower taxation elsewhere.
05-15-2004, 10:28 PM
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I pay around 90p in Falkirk, despite being right newt to one of the biggest BP plants in the country!!!!
however lets put a bit of perspective on this.
a rise of 2p per litre equates to
however lets put a bit of perspective on this.
a rise of 2p per litre equates to
05-16-2004, 01:40 AM
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Yes its only 1 pound a tank extra, but it keeps happening. 6 months ago unleaded was 72.9, its now 81.9, thats a 9 pence increase.
As has been said eventually those people who can barely afford a car, but it is essential for them to have one will make a choice, not pay insurance/rfl/miss the next service or get rid of the car as they can not afford to put the petrol in.
Why is petrol always priced at xx.9 or xx.5 ppl? I've never once had a petrol bill come to xxxx.5?
As has been said eventually those people who can barely afford a car, but it is essential for them to have one will make a choice, not pay insurance/rfl/miss the next service or get rid of the car as they can not afford to put the petrol in.
Why is petrol always priced at xx.9 or xx.5 ppl? I've never once had a petrol bill come to xxxx.5?
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