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Old 07-02-2008, 04:54 AM
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Just been thinking about this, Did you make sure your insurence had legal cover included? If so - use it, take the person to court!
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Originally Posted by GarethB,Jul 2 2008, 12:03 PM
Leave him a message telling him that you and the three witnesses will have no alternative but to go to the police if he doesn't contact you by a given time.


Do NOT do this, that could be seen as blackmail!!!!!
Old 07-02-2008, 05:23 AM
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Not sure I agree - you are just telling him what you are going to do.

I would speak to the Police and I am sure they would call and have a polite word with him.
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Originally Posted by Kiteland,Jul 2 2008, 01:23 PM
Not sure I agree - you are just telling him what you are going to do.

I would speak to the Police and I am sure they would call and have a polite word with him.
It is threatening somone and you just cant do that.
Old 07-02-2008, 05:30 AM
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For me it would come down to the manner in which the message is delivered. By not calling back he is bring the trip to the Police on himself.
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Originally Posted by Kiteland,Jul 2 2008, 01:30 PM
For me it would come down to the manner in which the message is delivered. By not calling back he is bring the trip to the Police on himself.
TBH I think as I have already said is most likely to yield the best results

1) Report it, you have witnesses and insist it is taken seriously.

2) use your Legal cover to take the guy to small claims court.
Old 07-02-2008, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MC_BLADE,Jul 2 2008, 01:55 PM


Do NOT do this, that could be seen as blackmail!!!!!
Balls! If the guy's got nothing to hide and hadn't caused any damage then why would he object to you going to the police?

As he did cause damage to your car, you telling him that unless he deals with the damage he caused or you go to the police isn't blackmail at all. He owes you money and you're asking for fair recompense. That's not blackmail.

He's just dodging the issue, burying his head in the sand and hoping to will all go away.

As so many people do unfortunately.

You need to make him realise that it isn't going to go away and he's going to have to deal with it one way or another.
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I've no legal training so the following is just a hunch. If he fell whilst drunk then surely the police will view this as an accident (even though he should not have been so stupid as to get so drunk that he can't keep his balance.) As such they would probably maintain that your route to redress is civil action. There was no criminal intent therefore no offence.

But as as has been said already - you have nothing to lose from trying. At the same time though, I would start looking at the mechanics of taking him through the small claims procedure.
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Originally Posted by GarethB,Jul 2 2008, 12:03 PM

Police were slow but helpful following a bump in a hotel car park where the other driver "mistakenly" left the wrong tel. no. on my windscreen.
I have been wondering about that

How far out was the telephone number she left?

And what else has she had to say for herself?
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Originally Posted by Stiggywig,Jul 2 2008, 07:05 PM
There was no criminal intent therefore no offence.
Intent is beside the point you can commit a criminal act without the intent of doing so, the intent will only be taken into account in mittigation. The fact remains that this persons actions directly resulted in damage to the OP's car for which he must clearly be held liable.


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