Heated mirrors - if only !
11-19-2002, 02:54 AM
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I think a lot of the niggly comments about the car are valid - but you need to look at the cost aspect.
Honda make very few of these cars and they are "relatively" cheap. It's not specification that costs money - it's the amount that are produced. S2000 is not in the "mass" production zone - so everything that goes on that car is a special in manufacturing terms. Honda could have gone the easy route and pinched bits off other cars - remember Lotus Esprit had Morris Marina door handles - but then it would be a Honda Jazz 2000.
If adding heated mirrors to the spec added 500quid to the cost - would you still want them?
Honda make very few of these cars and they are "relatively" cheap. It's not specification that costs money - it's the amount that are produced. S2000 is not in the "mass" production zone - so everything that goes on that car is a special in manufacturing terms. Honda could have gone the easy route and pinched bits off other cars - remember Lotus Esprit had Morris Marina door handles - but then it would be a Honda Jazz 2000.
If adding heated mirrors to the spec added 500quid to the cost - would you still want them?
11-19-2002, 03:04 AM
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Too true Kobe!
Anyone know how (IF!) Honda makes money on these cars?
Think about it:
TT - let's face it, it's a Golf
Elise - Nice chassis, the power train is from a volume hatch (and there isn't anything else!)
Boxster - Common floorpan, engine, trim, front body with the 911 (and check the price tag!)
MX 5 - they always planned to make a gizzilion
How do they do it!??!
Anyone know how (IF!) Honda makes money on these cars?
Think about it:
- Unique Engine
- Unique gearbox
- Unique instruments
- Unique diff (? actually not sure about that one)
- Unique floorpan / chassis
TT - let's face it, it's a Golf
Elise - Nice chassis, the power train is from a volume hatch (and there isn't anything else!)
Boxster - Common floorpan, engine, trim, front body with the 911 (and check the price tag!)
MX 5 - they always planned to make a gizzilion
How do they do it!??!
11-19-2002, 03:09 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JamesM
[B]And you forgor to add in all the recall work, which should also be included:
- Wheels
- Clutch
- Some gearboxes
How do they do it????
[B]And you forgor to add in all the recall work, which should also be included:
- Wheels
- Clutch
- Some gearboxes
How do they do it????
11-19-2002, 03:23 AM
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OK, what i meant was, this is a convertible sports car, the idea is to keep weight down to a minimum - air con and power roofI believe were included for the US market where a car without them would be considered to be downmarket.
The Northern European market is small relative to the US/JP markets where 'Winter Accessories' are not a selling point.
The Jazz is intended for Europe, hence the things that Europeans want, like heated mirrors.
What I meant to say was that if they're important to you, you bought the wrong car, but to get the same performance and handling you'd have to go a lot higher than
The Northern European market is small relative to the US/JP markets where 'Winter Accessories' are not a selling point.
The Jazz is intended for Europe, hence the things that Europeans want, like heated mirrors.
What I meant to say was that if they're important to you, you bought the wrong car, but to get the same performance and handling you'd have to go a lot higher than
