DMS ultimate road/track build - Nurburgring Video on P15, Rockingham Video P16, Spa video P18
08-08-2012, 11:33 AM
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Only if we have carbon chassis... Subframe still bolt on tho, with glues.
My DB9 glued together as well, and subframe is still bolt on with glues
My DB9 glued together as well, and subframe is still bolt on with glues
08-08-2012, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixon Motorsports' timestamp='1344439922' post='21921757
Front subframe in -
Mmmm, I don't think so, when I fitted my front one on my own, trying not to scratch the new powder coat it certainly didn't feel like it was floating
Perhaps this is another one of Dixons devices that we didn't even know we needed,Razz.I spoke to Dixon today....... I feel a wallet emptying coming on again
I think he should be bound and gaged so he can't corrupt people like me 
Sorry this is a response to the question below
Are those subframes soo light they float? Would that be air suspension ?
08-08-2012, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixon Motorsports' timestamp='1344447705' post='21922161
I don't mind, I believe most of the forum members here are clever enough to have some common sense. You don't need to be an engineer to work out metal is harder than poly
I'm loving this thread.
I notice you're reusing the subframe bolts Dixon. IIRC Honda say to replace once they're removed. What's your take?
Chris.
08-08-2012, 12:24 PM
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, it may turn out to be the ultimate track tool, time will tell, but because of the prolific use of polly and spherical bushes it has already failed to be the ultimate road S2000, by ultimate it has got to out perform every other S2000 in all road conditions, polly and spherical do not allow this to happen because you have removed all forms of compliance, 
great for a track car not so great for a every day road car,so a change in title is in order,
08-08-2012, 12:44 PM
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Haha, my daily has all the subframes solid mounted and all the pivots are either rose joints or needle bearings - it's actually more comfortable on the road than you'd think, in fact, I'd say it's as good if not better than a stock S2000 on crap roads going by the last one I had a spin in....so much depends on the rest of the setup really.
08-08-2012, 12:59 PM
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Haha, my daily has all the subframes solid mounted and all the pivots are either rose joints or needle bearings - it's actually more comfortable on the road than you'd think, in fact, I'd say it's as good if not better than a stock S2000 on crap roads going by the last one I had a spin in....so much depends on the rest of the setup really.
08-08-2012, 01:04 PM
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However, most of the problem with rose joints and needle bearings is the noise from harsh surfaces rather than the transmission of the forces - the latter can be resolved with some geometery work, the former with adequate stiffness between suspension mountings to stop the chassis acting as a tinfoil speaker as it twists.
Polybushes done properly can be better than standard rubber bushes as they have more internal damping and resiliance than rubber.
08-08-2012, 01:08 PM
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