Constant CEL battle continues - update - what next? - random cylinder misfire, very intermittent !?!
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Have a look here. Mine popped its clogs when the car had just turned 49,000 miles. £300 dealer bill altogether
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/914...ght-o2-sensor/
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/914...ght-o2-sensor/
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Have a look here. Mine popped its clogs when the car had just turned 49,000 miles. £300 dealer bill altogether
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/914...ght-o2-sensor/
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/914...ght-o2-sensor/
Are you saying you had misfire codes from the O2 sensor then, or just a CEL light? I would have thought if if was the O2 sensor, that would throw its own fault code?
#23
In response:
davemac2 - Hopefully it isn't the injectors, but only time & trialling of the other parts like the coils 1st will determine that, if it is I'll give you a shout for a "how to" on how to replace them.
Richmc - At this stage, I'm going to trial Mr-pitts coils rather than pay for an auto electrician to test mine as I think that makes more sense.
Thanks for the link to the CEL reader
S2kTony & Simonix - I like simonix was under the impression that if the O2 sensor failed it would give a specific code, rather than causing a misfire code?
davemac2 - Hopefully it isn't the injectors, but only time & trialling of the other parts like the coils 1st will determine that, if it is I'll give you a shout for a "how to" on how to replace them.
Richmc - At this stage, I'm going to trial Mr-pitts coils rather than pay for an auto electrician to test mine as I think that makes more sense.
Thanks for the link to the CEL reader
S2kTony & Simonix - I like simonix was under the impression that if the O2 sensor failed it would give a specific code, rather than causing a misfire code?
#24
And deffo try Mr pitts coil packs first I was just letting davemac2 know they are no so simple to test. Any Krypton tester will use a scope to look at the health of each spark and will be able to see if the pack is breaking down.
#27
I know it's not an S2000 but I've had a similar recent experience with my other car ( it has individual coil packs and NGK PZFR5D-11 platinum plugs, so similar but not identical)
I had intermittent misfire codes on (mainly but not exclusively) two out of six of the pots (Nos 2 + 5). I replaced the plugs, swapped coil packs, etc, etc until I got to replacing the coil packs - this seemed to solve the problem but the misfire came back nice and solid on cylinder 6 a few weeks later after a long 130 mile drive to Somerset and sitting overnight.
Drove me nuts until I got it to the garage. It turned out to be as simple as a cracked ceramic insulator on one of the plugs. I'd totally missed it as I was focusing on checking the electrodes and gap + swapping coil packs over, thinking it might be injectors/loom/ecu/earthing points.
According to my mechanic dodgy coil packs can put extra stress through the spark plugs and weaken them.
So what I'm trying to say in a rather long-winded way :-) is it might be worth a good visual inspection of the plugs even though you have replaced them already.
I had intermittent misfire codes on (mainly but not exclusively) two out of six of the pots (Nos 2 + 5). I replaced the plugs, swapped coil packs, etc, etc until I got to replacing the coil packs - this seemed to solve the problem but the misfire came back nice and solid on cylinder 6 a few weeks later after a long 130 mile drive to Somerset and sitting overnight.
Drove me nuts until I got it to the garage. It turned out to be as simple as a cracked ceramic insulator on one of the plugs. I'd totally missed it as I was focusing on checking the electrodes and gap + swapping coil packs over, thinking it might be injectors/loom/ecu/earthing points.
According to my mechanic dodgy coil packs can put extra stress through the spark plugs and weaken them.
So what I'm trying to say in a rather long-winded way :-) is it might be worth a good visual inspection of the plugs even though you have replaced them already.
#28
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Misfire cylinder numbers aren't reliable due to the limited sensors which the ECU has to determine a misfire.
I'd be trying coil packs first.
Injector cleaner doesn't work IMO. So getting them properly cleaned or replaced would be the next step.
Hitting the MAP sensor doesn't work either IMO.
I'd be trying coil packs first.
Injector cleaner doesn't work IMO. So getting them properly cleaned or replaced would be the next step.
Hitting the MAP sensor doesn't work either IMO.
#30
S2konroids - when I swap over the coil packs I'll make sure everything is clean; can I use a little WD40 or does it have to be a specific cleaner?
BenRNBP - unfortunately I had the problem before & after the plugs were replaced on & off for about a month now; replacing the plugs was the 1st move, either way I'll give them a check over when I do the coilpack swaps.
MB - Coilpacks getting swapped next week so hopefully that'll sort it, if not then replacing the injectors will be next like you say; so far I've just been trying to tick off the easier / cheaper jobs 1st.
The MAP sensor got a thud rather than a whack, a bit too much mechanical sympathy for a whack
Dan_bourne - I haven't even thought of checking the earths & have absolutely no idea how to go about it either? Any tips?
BenRNBP - unfortunately I had the problem before & after the plugs were replaced on & off for about a month now; replacing the plugs was the 1st move, either way I'll give them a check over when I do the coilpack swaps.
MB - Coilpacks getting swapped next week so hopefully that'll sort it, if not then replacing the injectors will be next like you say; so far I've just been trying to tick off the easier / cheaper jobs 1st.
The MAP sensor got a thud rather than a whack, a bit too much mechanical sympathy for a whack
Dan_bourne - I haven't even thought of checking the earths & have absolutely no idea how to go about it either? Any tips?
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