Common "weak" VTEC causes
01-09-2015, 12:46 AM
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At the risk of sounding like LG, why not book in for a driving day with someone like RideDrive? It might highlight better ways to drive, as well as getting the most out of your RWD car.
01-09-2015, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ade73' timestamp='1420751950' post='23461259
[quote name='japcrap' timestamp='1420708179' post='23460444']
Morning,
As above, what are common causes for the vtec not being as dramatic, strong and powerful as it should be?
I've had a search and couldn't find anything as usual, cheers.
Morning,
As above, what are common causes for the vtec not being as dramatic, strong and powerful as it should be?
I've had a search and couldn't find anything as usual, cheers.
Buying a later gay version
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I think Ade is trying to compensate for the fact he couldn't afford a good looking newer car and had to buy an old one.
01-09-2015, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova' timestamp='1420744433' post='23461111
Better still, book a course with these guys: http://www.carlimits.com/ where you can slide the car around on the safety of an airfield.
There's no need to be afraid of track days either, especially those run on airfields where there aren't any barriers. These guys run excellent days and have good instructors on hand: http://motorsport-events.com/
Here's a video taken on a day at Abingdon by PaulF from his car. I am in the black car - you can see how much room there is. It also shows the benefits of improving the driver/practise, Paul's car makes 5bhp more than mine.
Paul has also uploaded some videos of Car Limits days, so have a look through and you'll get a better idea of what's involved.
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siF8xf-MefU[/MEDIA]
01-09-2015, 02:21 AM
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It's a great idea, wet or dry and very good fun. You are quite right about not experimenting on the road, there is far too much stuff/people to hit
There's no need to be afraid of track days either, especially those run on airfields where there aren't any barriers. These guys run excellent days and have good instructors on hand: http://motorsport-events.com/
Here's a video taken on a day at Abingdon by PaulF from his car. I am in the black car - you can see how much room there is. It also shows the benefits of improving the driver/practise, Paul's car makes 5bhp more than mine.
Paul has also uploaded some videos of Car Limits days, so have a look through and you'll get a better idea of what's involved.
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siF8xf-MefU[/MEDIA]
There's no need to be afraid of track days either, especially those run on airfields where there aren't any barriers. These guys run excellent days and have good instructors on hand: http://motorsport-events.com/
Here's a video taken on a day at Abingdon by PaulF from his car. I am in the black car - you can see how much room there is. It also shows the benefits of improving the driver/practise, Paul's car makes 5bhp more than mine.
Paul has also uploaded some videos of Car Limits days, so have a look through and you'll get a better idea of what's involved.
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siF8xf-MefU[/MEDIA]
I like the look of the place in the video, certainly not much to hit apart from cones, you seem to brake before, during and after turn in quite a lot which I think would make the rear end go light. Would of been good to see how busy you were with the steering wheel in that video.
01-09-2015, 02:38 AM
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Barking before the turns is a good idea 
and trail-braking into corners is useful for getting the nose of the car into the corner better.
You brake hard in a straight line, and then as you apply more steering lock, you come off the brakes slowly, thus managing the weight transfer and keeping more weight over the front thus improving the turn in.
For novices, doing all your braking in a straight line is a good idea.
I am usually pretty smooth on the steering wheel.
This video shows hands and feet, though I've improved a bit since then, where I was tending to change down too early:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omfaPmxqNEc[/media]
and trail-braking into corners is useful for getting the nose of the car into the corner better. You brake hard in a straight line, and then as you apply more steering lock, you come off the brakes slowly, thus managing the weight transfer and keeping more weight over the front thus improving the turn in.
For novices, doing all your braking in a straight line is a good idea.
I am usually pretty smooth on the steering wheel.
This video shows hands and feet, though I've improved a bit since then, where I was tending to change down too early:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omfaPmxqNEc[/media]
01-09-2015, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by japcrap' timestamp='1420733863' post='23460855
[quote name='Ultra_Nexus' timestamp='1420733583' post='23460846']
I don't find the backend loose at all, but everyone has their preferences. Yes a Clio would be easier to save because you can pin the throttle without care.
On track from my experiences, S2000s are driven nowhere near as fast as the 182 brigade. The S2000 is the faster car.
On the road the car is about having fun and provoking the rear end to slide, hearing the VTEC note etc is part of that.
I don't find the backend loose at all, but everyone has their preferences. Yes a Clio would be easier to save because you can pin the throttle without care.
On track from my experiences, S2000s are driven nowhere near as fast as the 182 brigade. The S2000 is the faster car.
On the road the car is about having fun and provoking the rear end to slide, hearing the VTEC note etc is part of that.
I find on the road when I drive it's about going as quick as you can without making the rear slide, I feel like if the rear goes when I'm cornering at 50-60mph it's going to be game over.
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I have to agree.
01-09-2015, 02:59 AM
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Barking before the turns is a good idea and trail-braking into corners is useful for getting the nose of the car into the corner better.
You brake hard in a straight line, and then as you apply more steering lock, you come off the brakes slowly, thus managing the weight transfer and keeping more weight over the front thus improving the turn in.
For novices, doing all your braking in a straight line is a good idea.
I am usually pretty smooth on the steering wheel.
This video shows hands and feet, though I've improved a bit since then, where I was tending to change down too early:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omfaPmxqNEc[/media]
and trail-braking into corners is useful for getting the nose of the car into the corner better. You brake hard in a straight line, and then as you apply more steering lock, you come off the brakes slowly, thus managing the weight transfer and keeping more weight over the front thus improving the turn in.
For novices, doing all your braking in a straight line is a good idea.
I am usually pretty smooth on the steering wheel.
This video shows hands and feet, though I've improved a bit since then, where I was tending to change down too early:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omfaPmxqNEc[/media]
01-09-2015, 03:23 AM
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2 minutes is enough for anyone, it's not that interesting!
In the 2012 videos, I don't include footcam but do include speed and rpm data, and I'm going a few seconds quicker, too.
Learning to H&T is a good idea, something I've done since getting the car. Best off getting the rhythm with the engine off at first, and then practice somewhere with not much traffic around.
Most of the "planted" aspect is down to the way the car is being driven, with weight transfers being managed nicely - something I had to learn to do.
A newer car like yours should be even more planted with it's bigger wheels and suspension changes.
It's also worth getting the geometry checked at somewhere like Wheels In Motion in Chesham. http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/
In the 2012 videos, I don't include footcam but do include speed and rpm data, and I'm going a few seconds quicker, too.
Learning to H&T is a good idea, something I've done since getting the car. Best off getting the rhythm with the engine off at first, and then practice somewhere with not much traffic around.
Most of the "planted" aspect is down to the way the car is being driven, with weight transfers being managed nicely - something I had to learn to do.
A newer car like yours should be even more planted with it's bigger wheels and suspension changes.
It's also worth getting the geometry checked at somewhere like Wheels In Motion in Chesham. http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/
01-09-2015, 03:26 AM
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2 minutes is enough for anyone, it's not that interesting!
In the 2012 videos, I don't include footcam but do include speed and rpm data, and I'm going a few seconds quicker, too.
Learning to H&T is a good idea, something I've done since getting the car. Best off getting the rhythm with the engine off at first, and then practice somewhere with not much traffic around.
Most of the "planted" aspect is down to the way the car is being driven, with weight transfers being managed nicely - something I had to learn to do.
A newer car like yours should be even more planted with it's bigger wheels and suspension changes.
It's also worth getting the geometry checked at somewhere like Wheels In Motion in Chesham. http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/
In the 2012 videos, I don't include footcam but do include speed and rpm data, and I'm going a few seconds quicker, too.
Learning to H&T is a good idea, something I've done since getting the car. Best off getting the rhythm with the engine off at first, and then practice somewhere with not much traffic around.
Most of the "planted" aspect is down to the way the car is being driven, with weight transfers being managed nicely - something I had to learn to do.
A newer car like yours should be even more planted with it's bigger wheels and suspension changes.
It's also worth getting the geometry checked at somewhere like Wheels In Motion in Chesham. http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/