Coilovers
04-26-2012, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by lovegroova' timestamp='1335263441' post='21637632
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Are coilovers really better on say a B road etc? possibly stiffer so worse?
I just went with lowering springs that were closest matched for the stock coilovers and it lowered the car just over 20mm. I'd love to try out coilovers on these roads and see if they are any better.
Are coilovers really better on say a B road etc? possibly stiffer so worse?
I just went with lowering springs that were closest matched for the stock coilovers and it lowered the car just over 20mm. I'd love to try out coilovers on these roads and see if they are any better.
Then there's the question of "which coilovers" - the 3 different kinds I've had have all been very different - those that were best on track were the worst on the road.
I suspect there's a big difference between budget stuff like the Meister-Rs and some of the more expensive stuff like Ohlins/Nitrons/Bilsteins/KWs.
I've been in a car equipped with some TEIN Monoflex and it was most uncomfortable and the owner tells me it really struggles on the bumpy stuff.
I could some it up by meaning 'stability' and 'handling', for example on a bumpy B road you can have an unsettled ride that is fidgety and tends to bounce and be unresponsive and also has a vacant feel thus typically doesn't corner/handle well.
I believed that in some instances, some coilovers could exacerbate the above which for me is undesirable but i guess its the geo as much as the coil-overs, not that clued on suspension that much TBH.
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04-26-2012, 11:44 AM
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I find the toyos are predictable on the limit (wet/dry) so happy with that. I don't drive like its a "qualifying lap on the road". If you are needing coilovers on the road you are driving too fast
04-26-2012, 12:08 PM
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According to the rules we aren't allowed to call people twats however there is nothing in the rules about us being able to "think" someone is a twat.
Therefore; "You're a twat!" would be against the rules.
But; "I think you're a twat" must be ok.
Hope this helps.
Therefore; "You're a twat!" would be against the rules.
But; "I think you're a twat" must be ok.
Hope this helps.
04-26-2012, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by loftust' timestamp='1335458465' post='21645571
Are we allowed to call people tw@ts on here?
Therefore; "You're a twat!" would be against the rules.
But; "I think you're a twat" must be ok.
Hope this helps.
04-26-2012, 12:22 PM
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Ok, so if I say I think tailhappy is a twat, that's ok?
In fact I think everybody forcing their opinion onto other people as being facts are twats.
You still don't get it, ride quality on coilovers is no different than standard ones when set soft enough, so how come I can only benefit from them if I'm going too fast?
In fact I think everybody forcing their opinion onto other people as being facts are twats.
You still don't get it, ride quality on coilovers is no different than standard ones when set soft enough, so how come I can only benefit from them if I'm going too fast?
04-26-2012, 12:46 PM
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Haha, I can't be live this thread is still going!
I have them on mine, why because I like how they improve the handling on road and track. I have had fitted them on two cars previous for the same reason. They make a positive change if you like a firmer ride, more response plus flexibility to adjust.
If you are after the above, get a set and you won't be disappointed. If not stick with stock
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I have them on mine, why because I like how they improve the handling on road and track. I have had fitted them on two cars previous for the same reason. They make a positive change if you like a firmer ride, more response plus flexibility to adjust.
If you are after the above, get a set and you won't be disappointed. If not stick with stock
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04-26-2012, 12:51 PM
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Cods-wallop...
One of my initial posts proved that to be incorrect. When my friend witnessed my S performing significantly better than his round a corner, it was done at legal speeds, and certainly not driving like an arse either...I'm quite conservative when compared to some on here/on the roads.
Stock is good, especially the MY02-03 IMO, and the best compromise between ride and handling. For a very small sacrifice in ride comfort, great gains can be had in handling. Saying that, I found AE's Bilsteins to be better than OEM coilovers where comfort was concerned.
One of my initial posts proved that to be incorrect. When my friend witnessed my S performing significantly better than his round a corner, it was done at legal speeds, and certainly not driving like an arse either...I'm quite conservative when compared to some on here/on the roads.
Stock is good, especially the MY02-03 IMO, and the best compromise between ride and handling. For a very small sacrifice in ride comfort, great gains can be had in handling. Saying that, I found AE's Bilsteins to be better than OEM coilovers where comfort was concerned.
04-27-2012, 01:07 AM
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Thanks.
I could some it up by meaning 'stability' and 'handling', for example on a bumpy B road you can have an unsettled ride that is fidgety and tends to bounce and be unresponsive and also has a vacant feel thus typically doesn't corner/handle well.
I believed that in some instances, some coilovers could exacerbate the above which for me is undesirable but i guess its the geo as much as the coil-overs, not that clued on suspension that much TBH.
I could some it up by meaning 'stability' and 'handling', for example on a bumpy B road you can have an unsettled ride that is fidgety and tends to bounce and be unresponsive and also has a vacant feel thus typically doesn't corner/handle well.
I believed that in some instances, some coilovers could exacerbate the above which for me is undesirable but i guess its the geo as much as the coil-overs, not that clued on suspension that much TBH.
On a smooth track, this isn't so much of a problem, so you can have stiff springs and little damping for reduced roll.
Geo will improve whatever you have, but it can't make up for an overly stiff setup, which I think many of the aftermarket coilovers do have.
If you can, I'd suggest having some passenger rides/drives of various cars equipped with different coilovers and see what you think.
Coilovers won't in general make your significantly faster than one with an OEM setup - that much is obvious from the Car Limits days where the fastest cars are often those with the fewest modifications (bar those with huge power). i.e. the driver is by far the largest factor in the equation.