Carbotech Brake Pads
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They are great pads, 3 trackdays on mine and loads of pad left. I did warp a set of cheap discs with them thou.
My friend just completed his second trackday in his Subaru Impreza and came home to find a strange grinding noise. Took the wheels off and saw that he has gone to the backing plate on the pad. Yellow Stuffs were the culprit.
Carbotech pads are expensive but you get what you pay for. £200 vs £75. On the road they are OTT and the squeal can drive you mad. Mines at its worse when my other half is in the car and i have to drive tamely, they never get enough heat to quieten them down. On track they are amazing, no need for a big brake kit if you run these pads. I will probably get all winter and alot of trackdays next year on my current set.
My second trackday on yellows was nothing but frustrating, no confidence braking into a corner and it really does unsettle you as your wondering when they are going to completely give up. Came into the pits and they were pretty much on fire on the rear of the car.
Buggyofmilddiscomfort uses his Carbotech in some pretty extreme conditions and they hold up. I would tend to go with the advice of people who use a pad on the track. I have spoken to loads of people on trackdays before the start of the day and they say "yellow stuff all around i wont get any fade". By the end of it they are moaning about crappy pedal and pulsing through the brake pedal.
Of course thou XP10 or higher is completely overkill on the road, if i was using a pad just for road then yellow stuff are fine. You would be hard pushed to get them hot enough for long enough to kill them on the road.
My friend just completed his second trackday in his Subaru Impreza and came home to find a strange grinding noise. Took the wheels off and saw that he has gone to the backing plate on the pad. Yellow Stuffs were the culprit.
Carbotech pads are expensive but you get what you pay for. £200 vs £75. On the road they are OTT and the squeal can drive you mad. Mines at its worse when my other half is in the car and i have to drive tamely, they never get enough heat to quieten them down. On track they are amazing, no need for a big brake kit if you run these pads. I will probably get all winter and alot of trackdays next year on my current set.
My second trackday on yellows was nothing but frustrating, no confidence braking into a corner and it really does unsettle you as your wondering when they are going to completely give up. Came into the pits and they were pretty much on fire on the rear of the car.
Buggyofmilddiscomfort uses his Carbotech in some pretty extreme conditions and they hold up. I would tend to go with the advice of people who use a pad on the track. I have spoken to loads of people on trackdays before the start of the day and they say "yellow stuff all around i wont get any fade". By the end of it they are moaning about crappy pedal and pulsing through the brake pedal.
Of course thou XP10 or higher is completely overkill on the road, if i was using a pad just for road then yellow stuff are fine. You would be hard pushed to get them hot enough for long enough to kill them on the road.
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We've got XP10's in the rear, because we have steering/fiddle brakes on the back of the buggy - so you can hold the brake on the inside wheel in a corner, and on the way out to stop the inside wheel spinning up - so there's quite a lot of heat buildup there.
There was one pretty fast course we went to that had a twist tarmac/gravel lane, where you were on the brakes after a long straight, holding the inside brake on to get the car to turn into a hairpin because it swapped from tarmac to gravel on the way in, then holding the brake on with the power on at the exit to stop the wheel lighting up on the gravel.
I was having to repack the CV joints and wheel bearing on that side with fresh grease every couple of runs because it was getting so hot it was weeping out of the seals like dirty water, but we never even thought about the pads all day - it was only later I realised just how much heat they must have coped with - and they never gave a hint of an issue.
The best thing is, even with that abuse, I know if was axle deep in mud, sand and grit 10 seconds later they would still work perfectly.
edit: I need to get a sales job
There was one pretty fast course we went to that had a twist tarmac/gravel lane, where you were on the brakes after a long straight, holding the inside brake on to get the car to turn into a hairpin because it swapped from tarmac to gravel on the way in, then holding the brake on with the power on at the exit to stop the wheel lighting up on the gravel.
I was having to repack the CV joints and wheel bearing on that side with fresh grease every couple of runs because it was getting so hot it was weeping out of the seals like dirty water, but we never even thought about the pads all day - it was only later I realised just how much heat they must have coped with - and they never gave a hint of an issue.
The best thing is, even with that abuse, I know if was axle deep in mud, sand and grit 10 seconds later they would still work perfectly.
edit: I need to get a sales job
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To be honest, I've never found the dust that bad - what there is of it just blows off with the pressure washer, whereas stuff like CL pads tends to weld itself to your paintwork
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Carbotech direct when I enquired about them in the past.
http://www.carbotech-europe.com/compounds.htm
http://www.carbotech-europe.com/compounds.htm
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Telephone: 01768 885 000
Email: sales@carbotech-europe.com
They have great bite from cold so would also be ideal for sprints.
Telephone: 01768 885 000
Email: sales@carbotech-europe.com
They have great bite from cold so would also be ideal for sprints.
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Hi Simon I am using on the roads atm but will be using it on track too.