C7BLE

No it isn't in my opinion

Traction control makes you lazy, and can catch you out when you get in trouble.
cutting power to the wheels is not always the best thing to do when it all starts to go wrong, and I don't like the onboard computer making arbitery decisions for me.

I have stuffed an expensive car after making a driver error that was compounded by the traction control.

I know a guy who spun a porsche 3 times on a test drive without the traction control option and claimed that he could only drive the car with it on when he test drove another one at a track day.

Not good, not good at all!

Pontio

i think the z4's traction control is quite good. the bigger cars may understeer if really pushed but the z4 seems good to me. you become more confident and can push the car into corners faster with it too.

zero_to60

anything that takes absolute control away from the driver is a bad thing in my opinion............if a driver needs to rely on electronics to stop him crashing he should perhaps invest in some driver training

The safety net holds no argument with me either............if you need traction control to stop you crashing the hard fact is you can't drive...FACT

euan

How does the price of a similarly specced new Z4 compare to a new S?

Bassoctopus

I think the 2.5 is the same price, but it will be without options no doubt, so add a couple of grand for leather, a/c, stereo etc etc

Pontio

they are more expensive with out a doubt, but about you cant drive if you rely on traction control is not true, if you got your foot down on a motorway or anywghere for that matter where there is standing water or any sought of abbnormality in the road you could loose the tail without expecting anything of the sought to happen. also if you cant be bothered and are just giving it soem every now and then it also helps..

jerrytlr

I'm sure it's a great car but it falls into the same trap so many of the others do (TT, 350Z etc.) of trying just too hard to be 'designer'.

One of the things I like most about the S2000 is that it is so understated - especially the interior which is about as plain as they come! - yet everything works brillliantly well - simple things like having the extra set of vents for the tops of the legs and having the heater controls by your fingertips so you can change settings in an instant. The S2000 was designed with function well ahead of form in the priority list - and hence appeals to a different type of customer to most of the other 'performance roadsters'.

If you want a good illustration of this, just take off a rear wheel and look at how light and carefully designed the wishbones are. Beautiful engineering - and completely invisible. I'm happy Honda invested their R&D money on this sort of thing rather than a funky set of stereo controls or contrasting-colour stitching on the seats.....

Cheers,

Jerry

mikdys

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jerrytlr
I'm sure it's a great car but it falls into the same trap so many of the others do (TT, 350Z etc.) of trying just too hard to be 'designer'.

Nick Graves

That is my problem with most modern cars.

The silly overstyling of every visible component, in a desperate attempt to distinguish it from the other seven vehicles spun off the identical platform, makes me want to

Design it to be good, not to be impressive.