BMW makes cheaper Z4
02-04-2005, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by simonprelude' date='Feb 4 2005, 10:18 AM
Can't see why anyone would want a Z4 instead of an S2000 ?!?!
A sleek sportscar, against a, well, blunt posing car ?!!?
A sleek sportscar, against a, well, blunt posing car ?!!?
Has the S2000 on the right hand side melted?
02-04-2005, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by moff' date='Feb 4 2005, 06:10 AM
I wouldn't go that far. The car is FWD and will easily understeer off the road with the ESP turned off.
02-04-2005, 06:42 AM
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This must mean the Z2 is officially dead then.
Part of the Z3's failure was said to be down to it trying to be an MX-5 rival and a Boxster rival at the same time.
That's why BMW wanted to do 2 cars as a follow-up.
Things are obviously going a bit pants for them, so they can no longer afford it.
Part of the Z3's failure was said to be down to it trying to be an MX-5 rival and a Boxster rival at the same time.
That's why BMW wanted to do 2 cars as a follow-up.
Things are obviously going a bit pants for them, so they can no longer afford it.
02-04-2005, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Philos' date='Feb 4 2005, 03:26 PM
Have you pushed a 150BP to the limit then? IMO there's certainly no point it having a Quattro sys. That half leather's a bit crap too.
I never thought there was going to be a Z2? They are going to launch a 2 series though (unless they call it 1 series convertible & coupe).
I never thought there was going to be a Z2? They are going to launch a 2 series though (unless they call it 1 series convertible & coupe).
The 150bhp TT does not have Quattro, to keep the weight down. IIRC it doesn't even have 1/2 leather, cloth only on the 150bhp version.
02-04-2005, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by moff' date='Feb 4 2005, 08:09 AM
The 150bhp TT does not have Quattro.
02-04-2005, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mikey k' date='Feb 4 2005, 05:04 PM
And a 150 BHP Z4 is a good idea because
02-04-2005, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Philos' date='Feb 4 2005, 05:03 PM
Yes (didn't make myslef clear) - as you said FWD - what I meant was it could never be justified cause its just not needed - would never be used.
The 150 bhp TT was built down to a price, hence the lack of 4WD.
I don't think you can knock these cars too much - it lets people get into quality convertibles at a more reasonable price. OK, they don't have the power to cut it, but plenty people aren't too bothered about that.
The FWD TT will presumably save a bit of weight anyway, so the power loss may not be as significant as we think.