Another one bites the dust.
12-12-2009, 02:42 PM
#91
Originally Posted by jml,Dec 12 2009, 10:55 PM
Just drive it as you would ride a bike and you'll be fine. Which reminds me be careful with white lines......
Or all three, if you live in Bruges
12-12-2009, 03:31 PM
#92
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Originally Posted by jml,Dec 12 2009, 09:55 PM
Just drive it as you would ride a bike and you'll be fine. Which reminds me be careful with white lines......
Ahhhh, get tyres baby...
12-12-2009, 03:56 PM
#95
Get ARBs
Whiteline highway
Tell all your friends - non-stagger's my way
Tyre walls
Sparco soles
R888 cost more than gold
The longer you play
The more you'll stray
A wheel on the turf means you'll go a long way
BRACE!
Whiteline highway
Tell all your friends - non-stagger's my way
Tyre walls
Sparco soles
R888 cost more than gold
The longer you play
The more you'll stray
A wheel on the turf means you'll go a long way
BRACE!
12-12-2009, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by m1bjr,Dec 12 2009, 09:32 PM
Okay.
Today on a racetrack I had the foot buried all day.
I am a very average driver.
100+ mph in the wet.
Full bore acceleration in straight lines, hard acceleration out of bends.
Threshold braking into apexes.
All in VTEC.
Not a single slide on a damp circuit.
Am I a driving God (lol) , or just careful?
Who knows...
But I tell you what, different tyre pressures by a few psi wont do what you suggest.
After one track session the outer rear was 38.5psi and the inner rear 34psi.
The only excuse is for the driver.
Today on a racetrack I had the foot buried all day.
I am a very average driver.
100+ mph in the wet.
Full bore acceleration in straight lines, hard acceleration out of bends.
Threshold braking into apexes.
All in VTEC.
Not a single slide on a damp circuit.
Am I a driving God (lol) , or just careful?
Who knows...
But I tell you what, different tyre pressures by a few psi wont do what you suggest.
After one track session the outer rear was 38.5psi and the inner rear 34psi.
The only excuse is for the driver.
I stand by my comments about pressures - a difference in pressue makes huge differences to how the diff deploys power on roads where difference in camber, traction are magnified. On a track the difference isn't as marked.
I always find it strange that people aren't prepared to accept that the S has handling traits that are not apparent on other cars with the same power and configuration. Lack of ESP and TC isn't an excuse. I've gunned my M3 from a standing start in the wet and it's never even remotely felt like it will spear off the road. That's without TC on and it has 420bhp.
I'm not saying the S is a widowmaker. Far from it. I'd have another in a heartbeat. But to state that's it's the drivers fault every time is
It deserves a level of respect disproportionately greater than it's 240bhp output would conventionally dictate. 
12-12-2009, 11:35 PM
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After such a diversity of opinion,it's small wonder that one can still remain totally confused.The main opinions seem to be :
-it's always the fault of the "idiot" behind the wheel
-the car is inherently dangerous
-tyre presures, geo DO or DON'T have a bearing on the behaviour of the car
-generally it's the experienced drivers who will say it's the "idiot" behind the wheel.
When I can afford geo and some advanced driving, then I'll be interested to know then the state of my, to quote a phrase, mixed-up confusion.
-it's always the fault of the "idiot" behind the wheel
-the car is inherently dangerous
-tyre presures, geo DO or DON'T have a bearing on the behaviour of the car
-generally it's the experienced drivers who will say it's the "idiot" behind the wheel.
When I can afford geo and some advanced driving, then I'll be interested to know then the state of my, to quote a phrase, mixed-up confusion.
12-13-2009, 01:38 AM
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When the back end goes out on the S, it is not the easiest car to bring back into line.
Check out the video on this thread. And then look at the road surface.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=750109
Check out the video on this thread. And then look at the road surface.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=750109
12-13-2009, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sin_Chase,Dec 13 2009, 03:39 AM
It is always the drivers fault, sorry.
I buy that 'the car only goes as fast as your foot allows it' but the percentage of slides that are recoverable in the S are significantly lower than other cars of similar configuration. That's with perfect set up - with a compromised set up, bad road camber it gets worse.
Again to reiterate that's why it's so awesome it demands your attention, and requires more of you than most other cars
Just out of interest is every car accident the drivers fault? Or just S2000's? Do you really believe the S is that infallible?