gaddafi

1) no, that's not the case

it has nothing to do with maintaining a stable (?!) group

many of the people attending this year had not met each other before

the group evolves - but rate and size are key, together with certain underlying principles (like no name badges)

2) as stated in 1) above, the make up of the group is not fixed; indeed, it changes every year, even if there are some repeat offenders

3) I recall numerous occasions where the forum has been used to discuss partys at individual's houses, where it is quite clear that no open invitation exists

I go back to Neil's point - it's a public event

and I think some posters might want to ponder why none of the people we meet in Le Mans feel 'excluded'

RichUK

Yes, I was offered a complete set of tickets by an associate for ferry, entry and camping, and Kay has said she was interested.

As it was she couldn't go and he managed to sell the ferry crossing to someone else.

gaddafi

no need for an apology

put this down to the limitations of the written word.....

it's really simple from my perspective

the 'group' works because of its size, because participants adhere to some underlying principles and are accepting of certain behaviours

these factors are difficult to define, because the group is not organised very formally beyond times, transport, tickets and a list of things we need

many people would struggle with this - and they tend to be the sorts of people who who would also struggle with some of the behaviours I allude to

it's difficult to explain why the numbers are critical, but you will have attended other events which are too small or too large

you just get a feel for this sort of thing

as you know, other members have attended for the first time this year, and I think even the most committed conspiracy theorist would find it difficult to convince anyone that such people are clearly of a certain type

Burnie and Graham for example (although I admit both are closets)

two things 'stop' people from joining our group - their personalities and numbers

at the moment, numbers are the overriding factor, but if this situation changes, people may need to think very seriously about whether they want to participate

I've touched on that before

Badger

Burnie? Closet?

Do me a favour

gaddafi

double wardrobe then

CiderBoy

Continuing the party analogy, I suggest we gate crash, drink all their booze, eat all their food and piss in their tents.

Rob M

What I think the point of this thread is:

We've been to Le Mans
It's on again next year
Maybe some other like minded people would be interested

The first big S2000 trip down in 2004 arose from exactly that (a few LM veterans saying come on you'll enjoy it!). One of the big learning points from that trip was that a large group became unwieldy (and potentially annoying)

Neil makes a valid point - Le Mans is a very public event attended by some 250 000 people. There are entire forums on other sites devoted to explaining how to attend ( Club Arnage for instance). If people want to go they can ask for advice from people on this forum here.
Then they can order their tickets/ferries etc

I don't camp with the 'main group' - don't travel the same route to the track or even go on the same days (Neither for example do Vixen or MrV). That doesn't stop me catching up with friends for a beer (or 20) at their camp. Or non S2K mates camping with me for that matter.


So - Who's thinking of going?

ps Ben Fluffyninja cannot camp with me as Emma wouldn't appreciate vomit on the carpet

Rob M

That may help put the fires out and preserve the local wells

fluffyninja

This was how I was planning on doing it.
Find out where everyone else is, sort out my own trip and I'll catch up with you there.

That way I can turn up to their campsite, drink all their beer, vomit on the bonfire and then stagger back to my tent without worry of getting eye-brows shaved

GSi

Eye brows would be the least of your worries